Trump

[ironsonthebrain]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-election

'History will judge Republicans who stay silent about the 'Big Lie' '

[prophet:marginal]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-election

'History will judge Republicans who stay silent about the 'Big Lie' '

Only if they don’t get to write it.

[bitter-iron-ny]

In 2020, a ragtag group of lawyers tried to use a fringe theory to overturn the election and install Trump for a 2nd term

Now, a sophisticated GOP operative w/virtually unlimited funds is trying to get the Supreme Court to endorse the same theory

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569 ... 64291.html

[Samba]

Apparently some of the documents at his gaff detailed a foreign nations nuclear capabilities. This is double secret probation level stuff that only the top level of the top level have clearance for. It certainly shouldn't be stuffed away in Melania's knicker drawer.

[Morocco Mole]

In 2020, a ragtag group of lawyers tried to use a fringe theory to overturn the election and install Trump for a 2nd term

Now, a sophisticated GOP operative w/virtually unlimited funds is trying to get the Supreme Court to endorse the same theory

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569 ... 64291.html

See Moore v. Harper just last week, a North Carolina case about whether state legislatures alone have the power to set election rules even if those laws violate state constitutions. The case is currently before the Supreme Court.

The North Carolina state supreme court rejected a dramatically partisan gerrymander by the Republican state legislature. Republicans say that the state court cannot stop the legislature’s carving up of the state because of the “independent state legislature doctrine.”

Actually goes back to 2015, when Republicans wanted to get rid of an independent redistricting commission in Arizona. It is based on the clause in the U.S. Constitution providing that “[t]he Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations.”

Until now, states have interpreted “legislatures” to mean the state’s general lawmaking processes, which include shared power and checks and balances among the three branches of state government. Now a radical minority of ‘Originalists’ (yer man Leo and his SCOTUS cronies) insist that a legislature is a legislature alone, unchecked by state courts or state constitutions that prohibit gerrymandering.

The “why”? :

Democrats are actually far more popular than Republicans in most states, and they win elections that are statewide, like those for the U.S. Senate, governor, or U.S. president. But state legislatures control the way state districts are carved up, and after 2010, when Republicans made a concerted effort to take over state houses through a plan called Operation REDMAP, they gerrymandered the states they control to the point that Democratic voters cannot win the number of seats their votes reflect.

Biden narrowly won Georgia in 2020, for example, but a new districting map has given Republicans an advantage of at least 15 points for control of the state House of Representatives. Democrats will have to win the state by double digits in order to flip the House. That party power leads to extremist legislation, for once in power, legislators in safe seats can operate without fear of being voted out and can vote for measures that cater to their extremist base rather than to the wishes of the majority.

This partisan gerrymandering skews Congress as well. According to political scientist Jacob Grumbach of the University of Washington, North Carolina, for example, was actually a leader in expanding access to voting in the 1970s. But after Republicans captured the legislature in 2010, they changed election laws so dramatically that in 2018, Republicans won 49.3% of the vote and yet captured 77% (10 of 13) of the state’s seats in Congress.

Grumbach identifies 2010 as a crucial shift for democracy in a number of states. “It’s all about [Republican] control,” he says. “When the [Republican Party] wins your state, it will reduce democracy.” The changes don’t reflect major changes in the states themselves; rather, both the big money interests of the Republican Party and the electoral base, which is motivated by white identity politics, want to keep voting limited.

Those advancing the independent state legislature theory want to be able to gerrymander their states, but they also point to another clause of the Constitution. It says: “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legis­lature thereof may direct, a Number of Elect­ors.” They advance the idea that the legislature can choose the state’s presidential electors regardless of which candidate the majority of the state’s voters choose.

This doctrine is, of course, what Trump and his allies pushed for to keep him in power in 2020: Republican state legislatures throwing out the will of the people and sending electors for Trump to Congress rather than the Biden electors the majority voted for.

Not surprisingly, those writing friend of the court briefs defending the independent state legislature doctrine are a who’s who of those who backed Trump’s effort to convince state officials to write slates of electors for Trump rather than Biden. They include America First Legal Foundation, which Democracy Docket identifies as connected to Trump advisor Stephen Miller and Trump’s chief of staff Mark Meadows; America’s Future (Trump’s national security advisor Michael Flynn); Claremont Institute’s Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence (John Eastman, author of the Eastman memo for overturning the 2020 election); Honest Elections Project (Leonard Leo); Public Interest Legal Foundation (Eastman and Trump lawyer Cleta Mitchell), Restoring Integrity and Trust in Elections (Trump’s attorney general Bill Barr), and so on.

In contrast, a conference consisting of the Supreme Court chief justices or chief judges of the courts of last resort of all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, Guam, and the Virgin Islands, urged the Supreme Court not to decide that the state legislatures could operate without any oversight. Relying on the long history of state court review of the legislatures’ decisions, including those over elections, it concluded that state courts had a traditional role to play in reviewing election laws under state constitutions.

Revered conservative judge J. Michael Luttig has been trying for months to sound the alarm that the independent state legislature doctrine is a blueprint for Republicans to steal the 2024 election. In April, before the court agreed to take on the Moore v. Harper case, he wrote: “Trump and the Republicans can only be stopped from stealing the 2024 election at this point if the Supreme Court rejects the independent state legislature doctrine…and Congress amends the Electoral Count Act to constrain Congress' own power to reject state electoral votes and decide the presidency.”

And yet in March, when the Supreme Court let the North Carolina Supreme Court’s decision against the radical map stay in place for 2022, justices Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, and Brett Kavanaugh indicated they are open to the idea that state courts have no role in overseeing the rules for federal elections.

In the one term Trump’s three justices have been on the court, they have decimated the legal landscape under which we have lived for generations, slashing power from the federal government, where Congress represents the majority, and returning it to states, where a Republican minority can impose its will. Thanks to the skewing of our electoral system, those states are now trying to take control of our federal government permanently. - Heather Cox Richardson

[bitter-iron-ny]

[prophet:marginal]

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[MB]

The only reason to steal classified information is to use it as leverage.

Why would Trump need that type of leverage?

Or to pass them on to Russia. Mentioned a few times on Russian TV (I know…) that Russian officials have seen the documents.

[bitter-iron-ny]

[szola]

Or to pass them on to Russia. Mentioned a few times on Russian TV (I know…) that Russian officials have seen the documents.

That is one way to use that leverage.

Either way, having classified documents, at home, isn't an accidental act.
And their power lies in when and how they are passed on.

Americans don't need the information.
Only foreign entites do.

[Shabu]

92% of the Republican candidates trump has backed have won. This is in the Republican only primaries.

Of course, this doesn't mean they'd win in a general election but it's still interesting.

Long term established Republicans are losing to first time candidates who just parrot trump buzz phrases.

It shows that no matter what the truth is or evidence says roughly one third of the country is behind trump all the way. They will not sway from the cult, and he knows that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62905365

[Shabu]

He's calling on his supporters to kick off if he's charged with any crimes.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiED ... id=US%3Aen

[szola]

It shows that no matter what the truth is or evidence says roughly one third of the country is behind trump all the way. They will not sway from the cult, and he knows that.

One third of voters.

This is where most of the political fighting lies at the moment. The Republican party needs to disenfranchise a rather large portion of the electorate, and hope that the Democratic party will drift too far from the consensus for most Republican voters to switch sides. Then add the gerrymandering and you don't have free and fair elections anymore.

It's becoming a show. Just as American sports are primed to be entertainment more then sporting achievements.

[prophet:marginal]

He's calling on his supporters to kick off if he's charged with any crimes.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiED ... id=US%3Aen

War across the USA?

Putin must be creasing up.

[OFT]

He's calling on his supporters to kick off if he's charged with any crimes.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiED ... id=US%3Aen

He's a proper charmer ain't he.

[wolf359]

He's calling on his supporters to kick off if he's charged with any crimes.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiED ... id=US%3Aen

Honestly if he was to have an 'accident' the world would be a better place.

[Shabu]

One third of voters.

This is where most of the political fighting lies at the moment. The Republican party needs to disenfranchise a rather large portion of the electorate, and hope that the Democratic party will drift too far from the consensus for most Republican voters to switch sides. Then add the gerrymandering and you don't have free and fair elections anymore.

It's becoming a show. Just as American sports are primed to be entertainment more then sporting achievements.

And the big question is "is it the Republican Party" anymore?

Traditional Republicans are being shut out as RINOs. Not sure how they're feeling? Do they abandon what the party has become or stay in the hope it will change back?

[Turns to Stone]

I can't remember who it was, but someone in this thread said that he hoped Trump didn't win - as there would be rioting on the streets if Biden didn't get in and that it could get very nasty indeed.

Looks like whatever happens in America they riot anyway.

[simon hammer]

In 2020, a ragtag group of lawyers tried to use a fringe theory to overturn the election and install Trump for a 2nd term

Now, a sophisticated GOP operative w/virtually unlimited funds is trying to get the Supreme Court to endorse the same theory

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....

[old fart]

BBC News - Donald Trump sued for fraud over family business
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62986812


Could it be expensive?