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Re: The Johnson Government 2019-202?

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DaveWHU1964 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:24 pm You’ll have to ask Yougov but I doubt the above two groups are the only demographics they poll from. Why anyway? Doesn’t the result sound right to you?
Just interested - not really bothered by the results just never understood who it was that were polled. Maybe it’s a secret.
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No secret. This breaks the (nearly) 3,000 adults polled today by things like region, age, etc, etc, etc. I’ll test you on it tomorrow. 😉

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/su ... 25/2d6f9/1
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DaveWHU1964 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:20 pm I never said it did. Can we agree that it does equate to (whatever percentage of) them being less likely to vote for his party?
Of the Tory voters? I'd guess some northern seats but I'd doubt it equates to millions. I definitely wouldn't say 27% of Tory voters last time. The cost of living is more likely to cause more than this will if things haven't changed in 2 years.
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:54 pm The cost of living is more likely to cause more than this will if things haven't changed in 2 years.
Agreed. But that doesn’t make what has happened less important. From Owen Paterson onwards he has been hugely damaged. Six or so months ago he’d have had far more political capital/ slack cut for him by voters. He goes into this cost of living crisis, which has barely started yet in so far as it’s going to get a lot worse, with ratings that could hardly be worse.
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So you think the majority of Tory voters actually support their leader ,who is a proven liar,a breaker of his own laws ?
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Robie wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 pm The frightening thing for me, and its glaringly obvious, is that they are actually using this as a tactic to swerve the real and proper problem of the millions of people who are ****ting themselves about how they are going to eat and keep warm.
Johnson and his party are seeing their parties as a smoke and mirror exercise.
Total *****!
To take this further, tomorrow, it seems, we're likely to hear of some ' windfall taxes' levied on a few oil and gas companies.
These, of course, would be the same windfall taxes Tory MPs were whipped to vote against in a Labour Party initiated proposal just a couple of weeks back........ what fortuitous timing...

[They don't give a sh*t for people struggling with the cost of living, while it was just the poorest (who rarely vote) they were happy to ignore it, now some that aren't exactly living hand to mouth are feeling it they're ready to shake the magic money tree.]
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Oldun wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 6:01 pmNo are you ?
Feels like that’s what you’re considering.
The same tactic used by remain hq to talk down people considering how to vote at the referendum, the lower paid, the lower educated, the old and past it, the racists.
Would you say this is how Labour fans and activists will go about trying to drum up support ? Crack on if you think that will work.
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Robbie wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 pm The frightening thing for me, and its glaringly obvious, is that they are actually using this as a tactic to swerve the real and proper problem of the millions of people who are ****ting themselves about how they are going to eat and keep warm.
Johnson and his party are seeing their parties as a smoke and mirror exercise.
Total *****!
Except it's not them that keep bringing up their own embarrassment to deflect attention away from their own failings.........
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Tenbury wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:43 pm To take this further, tomorrow, it seems, we're likely to hear of some ' windfall taxes' levied on a few oil and gas companies.
These, of course, would be the same windfall taxes Tory MPs were whipped to vote against in a Labour Party initiated proposal just a couple of weeks back........ what fortuitous timing...


They've been waiting for the Sue Gray Report before unveiling the Windfall Tax scheme .

Give The Plebs what they want and they soon forget .
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“Rishi,old bean,deploy SMOKESCREEN.”

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Amazing it's being announced today after being dead against a windfall tax for the last 4 months...
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smuts wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 8:33 am Amazing it's being announced today after being dead against a windfall tax for the last 4 months...
To paraphrase Jo Moore:
Good news day to bury bad news
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smuts wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 8:33 am Amazing it's being announced today after being dead against a windfall tax for the last 4 months...
Cannot think what has changed in the last week :chin:

If Boris can just commit a few more crimes they need to gloss over then think of the good they could do for the country!
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Oldun wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 10:15 pm So you think the majority of Tory voters actually support their leader ,who is a proven liar,a breaker of his own laws ?
According to yougov a large majority don't think he should resign. If that's support then yes it looks like that.
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smuts wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 8:33 am Amazing it's being announced today after being dead against a windfall tax for the last 4 months...
And sadly, the gullible fall for it, like every other u-turn and smokescreen this bunch of c**** has been part of since being elected.

"see, they do listen..."

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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 8:42 am According to yougov a large majority don't think he should resign. If that's support then yes it looks like that.
A rather sad indictment of a Tory voter.
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smuts wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 8:33 am Amazing it's being announced today after being dead against a windfall tax for the last 4 months...
Thank god for the opposition parties who can come up with good ideas ,get rejected unanimously by the government who then pretend that is their idea.
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If there was anyone in the cabinet even remotely palatable the tories would have ousted Johnson already.
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Oldun wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:05 am A rather sad indictment of a Tory voter.
Tory voters vote Tory irrespective of leader. Labour voters vote labour. Floating voters in marginals decide elections. Trying to make out people are somehow less than you because of how they vote doesn't help anyone imo. There is enough crap on both sides to be able to question anyone's choice if we really wanted to. I'd imagine at least 25% of the labour membership hate lots about their leader (establishment crony, police state advocate, prosecuted protestors are just a few of the things I have read) but will still vote labour at the election.

I realise you are trying to create some sort of generalised moral judgement superiority but it's frankly ridiculous. By that standard did labour voters support an anti Semite with terrorist sympathies last time out? Of course they didn't, for one thing they aren't a homogeneous group they vote labour for their own individual reasons.

Imo lots of people vote against getting the other lot, a lesser of 2 evils kind of thing. Judging them for picking one particular evil over another is a bit too sanctimonious for my tastes.
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Especially when there's a rizla paper between all of them.

None of them stand for anything. It's the same club with different colours.
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