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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:03 pm I’m sure we’ll survive somehow.
What about when October hits and the next price cap increase? Or when ofgen get their way and it becomes 3 monthly reviews of the price cap rather than 6 monthly

What then?
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:11 pm What about when October hits and the next price cap increase? Or when ofgen get their way and it becomes 3 monthly reviews of the price cap rather than 6 monthly

What then?
Who knows, I suspect I’ll probably have to wear a coat indoors.
What will you do ?
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:12 pm Who knows, I suspect I’ll probably have to wear a coat indoors.
What will you do ?
Im fortunately not affected by it. I've fixed my gas until April at 9p a unit (up from 4p) costly but least I'm prepared

Also my project which saves me electric pays for the gas.

I'm fortunate as I say.

Not everyone is and why should people suffer?

This gov has failed. For example the 0% vat on green projects. Read the room.. yay it saved me £800 ... But I can afford to do my project. He was throwing cash to those who don't need it as much.

Need to slash vat on energy bills that would have more affect. Or the windfall tax
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:21 pm Im fortunately not affected by it. I've fixed my gas until April at 9p a unit (up from 4p) costly but least I'm prepared

Also my project which saves me electric pays for the gas.

I'm fortunate as I say.

Not everyone is and why should people suffer?

This gov has failed. For example the 0% vat on green projects. Read the room.. yay it saved me £800 ... But I can afford to do my project. He was throwing cash to those who don't need it as much.

Need to slash vat on energy bills that would have more affect. Or the windfall tax
Slashing Vat and suspending green levy would do the trick. Windfall tax on top of a 40% north sea tax would be unfair.
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:23 pm Slashing Vat and suspending green levy would do the trick. Windfall tax on top of a 40% north sea tax would be unfair.
Disagree. Considering they have boasted profits of more than they know what to do with a one off windfall tax would be fair

Maybe all 3 should be considered to make a real dent.
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:25 pm Disagree. Considering they have boasted profits of more than they know what to do with a one off windfall tax would be fair

Maybe all 3 should be considered to make a real dent.
Thats your choice and that’s fine.
As I say I will be affected by it, but don’t think over taxing is the answer. By doing 2 of the tax cuts would take the level close enough back to norm
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:23 pm Slashing Vat and suspending green levy would do the trick. Windfall tax on top of a 40% north sea tax would be unfair.
Slashing VAT just makes more money for the company. Never gets passed on to the consumer.
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:32 pm Thats your choice and that’s fine.
As I say I will be affected by it, but don’t think over taxing is the answer. By doing 2 of the tax cuts would take the level close enough back to norm
I think the green levy is far more important than profits from North sea oil who make billions and we need to get off fossil fuels
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MB wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:35 pm Slashing VAT just makes more money for the company. Never gets passed on to the consumer.
Then it’s even more important to ensure that charges are tracked stringently to real time oil prices. I think one thing that should be review first and foremost is the instant rise in standing charges alongside tarrif rates. I read their had been an average rise of around 80% for daily standing charges. I don’t understand how ofgem hasn’t questioned as to why this hike is so high. Yes they may need raising but maybe 10%, not 80%.
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Seeing as we have a government that likes to point out that they are the best in the G7
Why does the UK have the highest inflation in the G7?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... vid-brexit
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 6:19 pm Keep this story in mind next time the government try to claim that by stopping people from being deported without a fair process Labour and "woke lefty" lawyers are somehow on the side of murderers and rapists.

They don't give a **** about and of us.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61508520
Will do, I mean it's exactly the same scenario.......
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:28 pm Then it’s even more important to ensure that charges are tracked stringently to real time oil prices. I think one thing that should be review first and foremost is the instant rise in standing charges alongside tarrif rates. I read their had been an average rise of around 80% for daily standing charges. I don’t understand how ofgem hasn’t questioned as to why this hike is so high. Yes they may need raising but maybe 10%, not 80%.
The standing charge rise Is to cover the cost of the failed energy companies
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:44 pm The standing charge rise Is to cover the cost of the failed energy companies
Will they go back down in a year when we have paid for that though
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:17 pm Will they go back down in a year when we have paid for that though
Who is to say a year pays for it?
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Dorres on C4 sale.

PSB status to remain for 10 years.

When asked about the potential for a US streaming service or broadcaster buying the channel she replied, (and I'm paraphrasing here)
"Why would they buy it , I can't see a US company ever making a 'Derry Girls' or" ....
Then I missed the next bit because both HerOFTness and myself were yelling 'that's exactly the point you stupid cow' at the TV

Dorres is either as thick as pig muck or is taking the piss.
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OFT wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:39 pm Dorres on C4 sale.

PSB status to remain for 10 years.

When asked about the potential for a US streaming service or broadcaster buying the channel she replied, (and I'm paraphrasing here)
"Why would they buy it , I can't see a US company ever making a 'Derry Girls' or" ....
Then I missed the next bit because both HerOFTness and myself were yelling 'that's exactly the point you stupid cow' at the TV

Dorres is either as thick as pig muck or is taking the piss.
You found yourself shouting at a television over the potential sale of a Tv broadcaster ?
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Rays Rock wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:57 pm You found yourself shouting at a television over the potential sale of a Tv broadcaster ?
It's not just the sale. But Dorres suggested that a U.S. broadcaster would not make a show such as Derry Girls so why would a US broadcaster buy it.
And that's the point, right there, sell off(i.e. get rid of) C4 and God forbid, the BBC who will make all the edgy non mainstream type of programming., but she knows that, she's revelling in it. Even then, that's not behind it, it's about challenging the Government of the day by an independent broadcaster and the Tories don't like it it would seem, like everything else, much better for the media to be in control of the Tory sponsors.

So yes, I was yelling at the TV, and I reserve my right so to do :winker:

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mumbles87 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 9:22 pm Who is to say a year pays for it?
2.4bn cost of companies going bust. That's about £60 a customer. Standing charge increases will raise about £75 extra a year.

I guess there are people on fixed rates so maybe a couple of years. My point is will it come down once it's paid off?
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:03 am 2.4bn cost of companies going bust. That's about £60 a customer. Standing charge increases will raise about £75 extra a year.

I guess there are people on fixed rates so maybe a couple of years. My point is will it come down once it's paid off?
What, like the cost of fuel did a couple of weeks back?
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:03 am 2.4bn cost of companies going bust. That's about £60 a customer. Standing charge increases will raise about £75 extra a year.

I guess there are people on fixed rates so maybe a couple of years. My point is will it come down once it's paid off?
I'd suspect this new standing charge is here to stay

Less competition means higher prices
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