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So, no one has copied Brexit, that wasn't the question though........
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delbert wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:50 pm So, no one has copied Brexit, that wasn't the question though........
A uniquely terrible idea is nothing to hold high as some achievement

Unless ofc you could claim they copied it from the Scots and their referendum?
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Are you broken? :smiler: You're fixating on Brexit, no one has copied it so it wasn't even a relevant answer.
I'm struggling to think of anything to be honest, we pay a fortune to be governed by the bright ideas club in Westminster and yet nothing they come up with is innovative or original enough to be copied by others, that's quite terrible.......
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delbert wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:05 pm Are you broken? :smiler: You're fixating on Brexit, no one has copied it so it wasn't even a relevant answer.
I'm struggling to think of anything to be honest, we pay a fortune to be governed by the bright ideas club in Westminster and yet nothing they come up with is innovative or original enough to be copied by others, that's quite terrible.......
It's what happens when people vote in people only interesting in looking after their mates and not running a country.
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delbert wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:21 pm Or the same money but without crippling repayments, other countries have similar.
Which actually brings up another point, has this, or any other recent UK government ever came up with an innovative or original idea that other countries have copied?
The problem is though, Delbs - that just like every other measure that governments have brought in to help more people buy homes - I would imagine that the main result of this would be to just increase house prices. Fortunately, I'd imagine that there's no-one in either government that owns a spare house or two, and who wouldn't benefit from seeing property prices increase to even more eyewatering prices.

What we really need is more and specifically more affordable housing. We need to encourage people to move out of the South East. We need to encourage tenants to lower rents and offer better renting packages so that mortgages don't become the be-all-and-all of people's lives. But no-one seems to want to do that.
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delbert wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:21 pm Or the same money but without crippling repayments, other countries have similar.
Which actually brings up another point, has this, or any other recent UK government ever came up with an innovative or original idea that other countries have copied?
The last thing I can think of was Gordon Brown bailing out the banks in 2008.

Whether that was actually a good idea in the long run is, of course, still subject to debate.
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Choose your horses Tory voters. He's lost the mail, no chance he sees the year out as leader.

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MB wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:35 pm That's the "red wall" lost by the Tories...
Turns to Stone wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:09 pm You can’t help but wonder sometimes if her own brain has it in for her!?
Fify. Stoney..
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MB wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm Bojo's no enquiry and won't lose the whip lasted long...
'Chris Pincher MP seeking medical support after groping claim'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62023278
Is the support for the drinking or the goosing?
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To quote Ser Bron of the Blackwater “there’s no cure for being a ****”.
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Looks like Johnson has dealt the peerage to Dacre too early.

If the Mails gone, then he’s gone.

He’s probably considering if there’s a way to ban newspapers now.
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So to Tories lied to teachers and now are making them the bad guy.

The 9% pay rise was only for next starters to bring up their pay to £28000 this year and then £30,000 in 2023. The government promised to increase the starting wage for teachers to that level in 2019. that promise was repeated in the Conservative manifesto for the 2019 General Election, it was factored into the education funding settlement announced pre election in summer 2019.


Every other teacher was offered 3%.

No wonder teachers are leaving at record rates, low pay, long hours, more pressure and parents treating them like childcare. While the rest of the public believes in the myth of long holidays.
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Prob wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:39 pm So to Tories lied to teachers and now are making them the bad guy.

The 9% pay rise was only for next starters to bring up their pay to £28000 this year and then £30,000 in 2023. The government promised to increase the starting wage for teachers to that level in 2019. that promise was repeated in the Conservative manifesto for the 2019 General Election, it was factored into the education funding settlement announced pre election in summer 2019.


Every other teacher was offered 3%.

No wonder teachers are leaving at record rates, low pay, long hours, more pressure and parents treating them like childcare. While the rest of the public believes in the myth of long holidays.
Whilst I have no doubt the Tories are more than capable of doing this it would be nice to have a link, one that's more reputable than to some singers tweet would be preferable..........
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Mid 90s we had a load of Tory sleaze scandals and England had a heartbreaking loss at Wembley on penalties in the late stages of the Euros.

If time constantly repeats itself in the way that every sci fi film has ever taught us then we're in for a cracker of a World Cup given last summer's Euros and the current state of the Tory party.

Every cloud and all that.
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Prob wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:39 pm The government promised to increase the starting wage for teachers to that level in 2019. that promise was repeated in the Conservative manifesto for the 2019 General Election, it was factored into the education funding settlement announced pre election in summer 2019.


Every other teacher was offered 3%.
No they didn't, no it wasn't. They said by 2022 a date that was pushed back a year during covid.
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Prob wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:39 pm No wonder teachers are leaving at record rates, low pay, long hours, more pressure and parents treating them like childcare. While the rest of the public believes in the myth of long holidays.
My mother is 88 now, she retired early for exactly the reasons you list.
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delbert wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 pm Whilst I have no doubt the Tories are more than capable of doing this it would be nice to have a link, one that's more reputable than to some singers tweet would be preferable..........
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -pay-offer
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Well it's a link, and despite being from The Guardian is still more reputable than a tweet from the lead singer of the Charlatans. It does little to reinforce your post though.......
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