I'm sure to some living in the south east, it feels like it at times..
The Johnson Government 2019-2022
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I'm sure to some living in the south east, it feels like it at times..
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Home Office again:Hammer1966 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:14 am Johnsons legacy. Home Office pay out record amounts in compensation. £12 million alone to people wrongfully detained in immigration centres.
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Priti deserves a damn good dressing down.delbert wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:14 pm Home Office again:
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I'll do it..
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Ah the auld what about whataboutery argument. Ignore today's troubles cos it's all happened before.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:33 pm Ah the old whataboutery argument again. It's no wonder we never learn anything when the sins of the past are so easily excused because it's a different party.
I didn't remember it at all. I googled £12m immigration detained and that came up. Which is precisely why I asked, nobody remembers it, nobody castigates the Brown govt as fascist etc yet a labour govt was up to the same incompetent crap.
But yeah it will all change once the govt changes.
I think ultimately we probably agree with each other. And given enough time I'm sure I could prove it.
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Do we actually have a government at the moment? Anyone seen any governing, good or bad, going on lately? Asking for a friend.
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The complete opposite really. There's no such thing as drawing a line under govts. There not today's troubles they happen over and over.Hammer1966 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:25 pm Ah the auld what about whataboutery argument. Ignore today's troubles cos it's all happened before.
Getting rid of this lot won't end the incompetence and corruption. Changing the colour of the system is ignoring the troubles of today and the last 60 years or more.
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No but isn't that what people wanted, Johnson with his hands firmly tied after resigning?DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:05 am Do we actually have a government at the moment? Anyone seen any governing, good or bad, going on lately? Asking for a friend.
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Honestly Sam, I can’t believe some of your ‘arguments’ nowadays mate. Who here or anywhere, outside of Johnny Rotten and the gang back in the day, wanted no government?SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:49 am No but isn't that what people wanted, Johnson with his hands firmly tied after resigning?
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Truss says on TV “I’ll raise £8.3bn by cutting regional public sector pay”
Storm rightly blows up, then says: I never said that
Sunak caught on video saying he’ll take money from deprived urban areas to help wealthy Tory towns
Storm blows up, then says: I never said that.
Post-Johnson is post-truth in Tory La-La Land it seems.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - George Orwell 1984.
Storm rightly blows up, then says: I never said that
Sunak caught on video saying he’ll take money from deprived urban areas to help wealthy Tory towns
Storm blows up, then says: I never said that.
Post-Johnson is post-truth in Tory La-La Land it seems.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” - George Orwell 1984.
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I didn't say people wanted no government. Nobody wanted the lame duck govt legislating. There was plenty of fearful stuff about him still having his hands on power - Labour tried to have a VOC to get him out. Thats essentially where we are at, a neutered, impotent govt. Now people want them to do their job but if they start doling out more money or in fact doing anything people will be up in arms about that as well. You can't have them being restrained from taking action and also want them governing.DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:20 am Honestly Sam, I can’t believe some of your ‘arguments’ nowadays mate. Who here or anywhere, outside of Johnny Rotten and the gang back in the day, wanted no government?
Why political parties all seem to need 2 or 3 months to pick a leader is probably what we should all be asking.
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For me we have a deputy prime minster for a reason. Soon as Boris (or whoever it is in the situation) resigns that should be it.. the deputy should take over until a new leader is electedSammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 am I didn't say people wanted no government. Nobody wanted the lame duck govt legislating. There was plenty of fearful stuff about him still having his hands on power - Labour tried to have a VOC to get him out. Thats essentially where we are at, a neutered, impotent govt. Now people want them to do their job but if they start doling out more money or in fact doing anything people will be up in arms about that as well. You can't have them being restrained from taking action and also want them governing.
Why political parties all seem to need 2 or 3 months to pick a leader is probably what we should all be asking.
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Yeah, but then we'd have Dominic Raab in charge. I reckon no government would be better than that.
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I saw him yesterday, looking very half-hearted waving some soppy Sunak banner, on the news.southbrishammer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am Yeah, but then we'd have Dominic Raab in charge. I reckon no government would be better than that.
He couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag.
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He could have resigned there and then leaving raab to take over anyways..SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:26 pm And be allowed to legislate and allocate budget etc?
What should happen is an election as we the people have zero say
It prob would be the smart move .. Labour may get in then come the next election the Tories can throw the cost of living crisis at their door as it will be labour dealing with the fall out not them.