bubbles1966 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:29 am
One of the surprise dividends of devolution - whether it's national assemblies or mayoralties - is that we can just how badly the voices of opposition run things when given the opportunity.
So the nationalists in Scotland are just as **** at running a country as the nationalists in England?
This is hardly breaking news. Perhaps we need to avoid tub thumping nationalists running our countries?
sendô wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:50 pm
So the nationalists in Scotland are just as **** at running a country as the nationalists in England?
Well , the Nationalists in Scotland awarded their Nurses an average of 7% pay rise for the past two years - I think the only bad thing they did was buy a Motor Home while the Nationalists in England awarded Michelle Mone contracts worth up to £203m for PPE that didn't actually work - the last we heard of Ms Mone was that she was taking time off to clear her name . Re-Designing the No10 Flat [ cost £200k ] - estimated cost of Track & Trace - £37bn.
Ok , the Ferries to the Outer Isles could have been handled better but there are still ferries operating there - The Tories awarded a contract of £13.8m to Seabourne Freight , a company who didn't own any ships and had never run a ferry service .
sendô wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 12:50 pm
So the nationalists in Scotland are just as **** at running a country as the nationalists in England?
This is hardly breaking news. Perhaps we need to avoid tub thumping nationalists running our countries?
The SNP having unchallenged power for 13 years has led to arrogance, complacency, corruption and poor governance.
The ENP having unchallenged power (with much less % of the vote) over the whole UK for 13 years has led to arrogance, complacency, off the scale corruption and appalling governance.
Seems there's a point where all ruling parties descend into chaos like the Tories have and a clean broom is essential and inevitable. Only hope Labour recognise it's not a solo mission for them to oust them both, they need to co-operate with the LD's & Greens in both jurisdictions to destroy both heads of the monster.
Junco Partner wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:26 am
The SNP having unchallenged power for 13 years has led to arrogance, complacency, corruption and poor governance.
The ENP having unchallenged power (with much less % of the vote) over the whole UK for 13 years has led to arrogance, complacency, off the scale corruption and appalling governance.
And how about Wales. 26 years of Labour. Worst health service in Britain.
It is very complex matter, you can't compare Wales to England as whole, its far better to compare a region. The Welsh population is older, sicker and more deprived than the English population – so its NHS has to work harder
Wales do better than England for referral by their GPs for cancer treatment
The Welsh Government has made different spending decisions and has placed greater emphasis on prevention, public health and social care. It has adopted a less ferocious approach to managing the system’s performance against these totemic targets than in England
-DL- wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:35 pm
You got anything that's less than 7 years old, and you know, relevant to now?
It is as relevant now as it is was 7 years ago, the problems are still the same. If you want to drink the Tory kool aid on the NHS and Wales go for it.
But the Tory government cut funding to the Wales year on year in a political attempt to play games.
They do not get the funding required to deliver services. Common theme here with every part of the UK over the past 13 years.
13 years of the Tories failing everyone and yet they gaslight the whole nation.
Former Labour MP for Kensington, Emma Dent Coad is another one from London Labour who has picked up her ball and walked away.
It appears that Starmer , Arsenal fan that he is, accepted hospitality from the Grenfell cladding company to watch the glorious Irons derail the team of dickheads he supports. It seems that was the straw that broke this particular camel's back, along with Labour central issuing lists of verboten groups and topics for local Labour parties now. It's much of what has come to characterise the actual left - CND etc.
The Abbott/Corbyn thing runs the risk of spiralling out of control because London Labour is stuffed full of that sort. The MP for Streatham was asking Sunak about slavery reparations the other day.
old fart wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:31 pm
England and Wales use slightly different methods, but the idea is roughly similar: areas that have more elderly people, more children, higher mortality rates and higher economic deprivation will get more money to spend per person.
Which then leads on to questioning how much is enough, or more uncomfortably for some, is that extra funding being spent as well as it could be?
Conclusion
It is clear that patients in Wales generally wait longer for care than their English counterparts. Looking at basic data for context suggests two possible causes.
Firstly, although the Welsh NHS receives more money than the English NHS per patient, this may not be enough more to account for an older population with a higher mortality rate.
It should be noted that total public spending in Wales – around 15% higher – is more in line with estimates of higher NHS need. The Welsh government has simply chosen not to focus its budget on health to the same extent as governments in London, who over the past decade have increased English NHS funding while cutting other budgets. These are not easy choices to make. This period in England has seen a dire situation emerge in social care, something it was outside the remit of this short project to compare.
A second reason may be that the NHS in Wales is less efficient or less focused on delivering timely care. While it may be influenced by the kinds of procedures people need, length of stay data appears to suggest that Wales is taking much longer to get patients treated and safely discharged. This may explain why it struggles to admit patients as quickly despite having many more beds. The OECD, in a review six years ago, warned that Welsh health boards lacked the capacity to drive improvement and innovation, and that central government needed to do more to support them and hold them to account.
There are very difficult years ahead for the NHS in Wales. Like its counterparts across the UK and Europe, it has seen burnout and delays from Covid-19 worsen what were already chronic problems with staffing and waiting times. But this should not stop difficult questions from being raised.
Prob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:08 pm
It is as relevant now as it is was 7 years ago, the problems are still the same. If you want to drink the Tory kool aid on the NHS and Wales go for it.
But the Tory government cut funding to the Wales year on year in a political attempt to play games.
They do not get the funding required to deliver services. Common theme here with every part of the UK over the past 13 years.
13 years of the Tories failing everyone and yet they gaslight the whole nation.
I drink nothing, but the blood of left wing hypocrites, and right wing hypocrites that have to go to their default position of whataboutery, and think they're clever by posting 7 year old articles to prove a point about what is being faced in 2023.
If you wish to insult my intelligence, feel free, remember that I'm not the one that's blinded by ideology like you.
Try opening your own mind a bit, because it's quite enlightening.
Prob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:08 pm
It is as relevant now as it is was 7 years ago, the problems are still the same. If you want to drink the Tory kool aid on the NHS and Wales go for it.
But the Tory government cut funding to the Wales year on year in a political attempt to play games.
They do not get the funding required to deliver services. Common theme here with every part of the UK over the past 13 years.
13 years of the Tories failing everyone and yet they gaslight the whole nation.
Funding to Wales is what, 23bn? How much higher than this was it in 2016?
They are devolved, they wanted to be more independent, they have tax raising powers. They wanted responsibility, this is what it looks like. Imagine if the UK govt explained away poor services by saying we don't get given enough money.
It's a common factor in this country that our elected officials try to hide behind a higher authority when given the chance to.
We have successfully stripped one layer of that away, the question is what to do with those who are still at it.
The mayoralties and devolved parliaments just give rise to a bunch of graspers who just appear to be on the gravy train. it's proper 'jobs for the boys' stuff with duds like Khan't and Burnham, Drakeford and Mary Doll.
As I've opined before, I struggle to see a reason for separate elections and groups of people to operate localised parliaments and assemblies. Let it be a blend of elected local council leaders plus elected Westminster MPs for these areas.
Let's be honest, the Welsh and Scottish MPs at Westminster cannot be doing the same job as the English ones if decision making on various policy areas in their part of the country is handed over to Drakeford and Mary Doll and the Motorhomes.
Senior civil servant Sue Gray has chosen not to be interviewed as part of a Cabinet Office inquiry over talks with Labour about a senior party role, a minister has said.
Ms Gray was offered a job as Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer's chief of staff in March.
A government appointments committee is investigating whether she breached civil service rules over the move.
Earlier, Sir Keir said he was confident Ms Gray had not broken any rules.
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On Tuesday, Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden issued a written statement to the House of Commons containing an update into the circumstances leading to Ms Gray's resignation.
In the statement, Mr Dowden said: "Ms Gray was given the opportunity to make representations as part of this process but chose not to do so."
Mr Dowden added: "I am unable at this stage to provide further information relating to the departure of Ms Gray whilst we consider next steps."
The BBC has been told that Ms Gray's focus is on the independent Advisory Committee on Business Appointments (Acoba) and she has "fully cooperated with" them and "given them all the details requested".
Re-Designing the No10 Flat [ cost £200k ] - estimated cost of Track & Trace - £37bn.
