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Re: Next Labour Leader

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Like someone else said. He cares not for the victim.
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Much better from Starmer in the Commons today.
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EvilC wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:27 pm Much better from Starmer in the Commons today.
He's had a good week - and yes, I know it's all relative :) and too little to be clear evidence of a change in gear. However his 'leading the Tories through the sewers' line and calling out Johnson for what he clearly is - corrupt - showed much welcome fire in Starmer's belly.
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EvilC wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:27 pm Much better from Starmer in the Commons today.
Not exactly setting the bar high.
Compare it to how Angela Rayner ripped Johsnon a new one last week. And every time she steps in for him at the PMQs panto.
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ironsonthebrain wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:41 pm Not exactly setting the bar high.
Compare it to how Angela Rayner ripped Johsnon a new one last week. And every time she steps in for him at the PMQs panto.
Rayner is dreadful otherwise IMO. She might be decent at PMQs but bar having a nice back story I have no idea how she made it to where she is.

Starmer is drab but I don’t doubt his intelligence.
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Monumental gaffe (video is first tweet in reply)

Obviously a cock-up rather than meaning to say that, but bad form.

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ironsonthebrain wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:41 pm Not exactly setting the bar high.
Compare it to how Angela Rayner ripped Johsnon a new one last week. And every time she steps in for him at the PMQs panto.
I think that says more about the nonsense panto that is PMQs - two leaders grandstanding in front of a baying audience trying to score cheap points.
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r99c wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:01 pm Monumental gaffe (video is first tweet in reply)

Obviously a cock-up rather than meaning to say that, but bad form.

He's apologised now. Even though he was appointed to the shadow cabinet by Corbyn he doesn't come across as rabid shitwit, he seems to be one of the more rational labourists......
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Yeah Ashworth has always seemed a bit more of a level headed, sorta centrist type.
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I pray that Starmer, Davey and Lucas have each got a copy of this report and are hearing clearly the message it's bringing. There is no way to rid ourselves of this corrupt, incompetent government of clowns without those three working together, and the preparations should start now.

Co-operate in only 154 English seats and you win

Quick look at Germany's new SDP(Germany's Labour)/Green/Liberal alliance government show what's possible with cooperation. Since snappy slogans are all the political rage these days, "Just Get Rid of Them" will work.
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Shadow Cabinet reshuffle today, apparently deputy leader Angela Rayner had no idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59461674
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sendô wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:39 pm Shadow Cabinet reshuffle today, apparently deputy leader Angela Rayner had no idea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59461674
Clearly Starmer out for revenge after Angela Rayner made him look small by facing him down over her job being chopped to bits earlier this year.
Whatever you reckon of Starmer's motives with this reshuffle, getting rid of one of the few remaining Labour Red Wall ( CatSmith ) MPs strikes me as being a major own goal.
And just at the time where the polls were going against the Tories.
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ironsonthebrain wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:17 pm Clearly Starmer out for revenge after Angela Rayner made him look small by facing him down over her job being chopped to bits earlier this year.
Whatever you reckon of Starmer's motives with this reshuffle, getting rid of one of the few remaining Labour Red Wall ( CatSmith ) MPs strikes me as being a major own goal.
And just at the time where the polls were going against the Tories.
He didn't get rid of her. She quit because she's still a fully paid up member of the cult of St. Jeremy.
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I'd give this one five minutes if I were you.

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I'm not sure what I've just seen but it needs destroying with fire....... :shock:
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delbert wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:57 pm I'm not sure what I've just seen but it needs destroying with fire....... :shock:
Love how he got a round of applause for being **** on a tambourine.
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Has he ever done a physical job in his life? The old communist workers cap must be a joke.
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666 hammer wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:10 am Has he ever done a physical job in his life?
Diane Abbot? He probably had to get a subcontractor in to help, though.
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Monkeybubbles wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:16 am Diane Abbot? He probably had to get a subcontractor in to help, though.
Yeah, I'd be outsourcing that one to the private sector, for sure.
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I'd like to know what Kier thinks he is doing propping up the current Tory govt by voting with them.
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