The Labour Party Thread

[Macca1973]

So, in your world, are working class people who've done very well not supposed to vote Labour and why?

I don’t personally give a sh*t what he does but don’t live your life like the very definition of ‘capitalism’ and then preach about Socialism at the Labour conference. Just keep your mouth shut!

[sendô]

So he was lucky enough to have made money through football, and then invested it wisely playing the system set up by other wealthy people. Yet you seem to think he shouldn't believe in socialist policies because he has some money?

[bubbles1966]

They are clearly going New Labour as a strategy, which makes sense to be fair.

That means Starmer will be thought of as a Tory no later than 2026.

It's just history re-running.

[OFT]

Firstly, whatever ones opinion, it's not a laughing matter, and secondly, I believe you're talking nonsense.
No offense intended

[Macca1973]

It’s certainly not a laughing matter you’re right about that, it’s a bit of a cock up by Labour.

Don’t worry, I just think a lot of modern Labour voters don’t really understand what Socialism is.

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

Good idea to invite multi-millionaire, property tycoon, ‘champagne socialist’ Gary Neville to the conference. Moans about high taxes, moans about tax cuts, f*cking hypocrite. The modern socialist, Labour supporter :lol:

Why do you hate success Macca? You Tories need to stop with the politics of envy.

[mumbles87]

It’s certainly not a laughing matter you’re right about that, it’s a bit of a cock up by Labour.

Don’t worry, I just think a lot of modern Labour voters don’t really understand what Socialism is.

Despite his making money from capitalism he actually shows some class and wants to give something back.

There is nothing wrong with that

[Macca1973]

Why do you hate success Macca? You Tories need to stop with the politics of envy.

:lol: brilliant!

I love success, I’m a capitalist and a lifelong Tory. What I hate is hypocrisy!

[OFT]

Despite his making money from capitalism he actually shows some class and wants to give something back.

There is nothing wrong with that

As he did when he made his hotel available to nurses and doctors who couldn't go home during covid.

[OFT]

That feckin laughing emoji AAArrrrggggggg!

[delbert]

Motion to allow Corbyn to stand as an MP while suspended voted down by Labour conference, 62% to 38%.

Can this and Rebecca Long-Bailey's total failure in the leadership election put to bed any notions of Corbyn supporters still having any hold on the party?

As welcoming as that is 38% is still a sizable figure.



I have no doubts that if the Tories decided to sing the Palestinian anthem at their conference they'd also need reminding of the words........

[Tenbury]

Given the average age of Tory members I should think that any measure designed to help those with failing memories would be welcome.

[delbert]

Given the average age of Tory members I should think that any measure designed to help those with failing memories would be welcome.

Touché........

[Turns to Stone]

In your eyes, Macca - Is it possible to be wealthy and successful and to attend a Labour conference or be a Labour voter?

[EvilC]

No they have to accumulate a personal wealth of approximately £70m through property and business deals. The very essence of socialism. What moron invited him to the conference? :lol:

He is a Labour Party member.

[DaveWHU1964]

Everything that’s going on and this is relevant?

We have reached a point where for now at least, Conservatives have nothing useful or important left to say.

[Monkeybubbles]

I don’t personally give a sh*t what he does but don’t live your life like the very definition of ‘capitalism’ and then preach about Socialism at the Labour conference. Just keep your mouth shut!

Did Neville "preach about Socialism", Macca?

You do understand that having political views that lean towards the left doesn't make you a Socialist, don't you? Otherwise, doesn't it mean that you're a Fascist by voting Tory?

[mumbles87]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... r-politics

Yeah he clearly doesn't get it at all does he ...

[delbert]

Yet you seem to think he shouldn't believe in socialist policies because he has some money?

It's an almost impossible position for celebrities to be in, they'll always only be one misplaced comment or action away from claims of hypocrisy and Champagne socialism. Ricky Tomlinson is never shy about his politics and comes across as a genuine bloke and proud socialist, despite his fortunes no one would accuse of him of being a Champagne socialist, I suppose his background plays a large part in that. Contrast that with the likes of Russell Brand who just comes across as a horrendous front bum.
Personally I'd place Neville towards the Ricky Tomlinson end of the rich lefty spectrum.....

[sendô]

Don’t worry, I just think a lot of modern Labour voters don’t really understand what Socialism is.

I don't think you really know what socialism means, understand that supporting social policies designed to assist the population at large and less wealthy people is not automatically socialism, or that people that have earnt more money than most others can still support such policies and don't necessary need to fall into the traditional Tory "pull up the draw bridge" mantra.