David Moyes' Claret and Blue Army!

[DusseldorfHammer]

He has.The way you carry on is if little has been wrong ths season and playing decent enough football.

Of course a lot of things have been wrong this season and some of them are done to the manager and his staff.

Seriously, what are you talking about?

[westlondonhammer]

Nail on the head.

He's performing well in a massively under performing team, he's very over rated by lots of people, especially those who peddle the nonsense that he's been 'mismanaged' and under another manager would be lighting up the League.

I really like Benrahma, he's been very useful to us with goals and assists throughout his time here. But there's a reason we had a free run at him from Brentford and he doesn't regularly start for a fairly subpar Algerian team.

He's a good player with obvious flaws, if he didn't have them he wouldn't play for us.

Spot on... both you and MB.

[Colours never run]

Of course a lot of things have been wrong this season and some of them are done to the manager and his staff.

Seriously, what are you talking about?

I'm very clear on what I say. It would help if you didn't keep putting words in to my mouth or read into something that wasn't meant by it but I'm used to it.

[Pete647580]

Benrahma is a lower half of the Premier League/top of the Championship level player. The team has sunk to his level.

Interesting way of categorising our players. I guess I would only see the following as 'top half of the PL' players:

Rice
Paqueta
Aguerd
Fabianski
Aureola
Kehrer
Zouma
Ogbonna
Scamacca

[Ironing Board]

Interesting way of categorising our players.

No Bowen? Seems much more effective than Scamacca.

[Burnley Hammer]

No Bowen? Seems much more effective than Scamacca.

This season? If yes then more effective at what exactly?

[jastons]

Danny Ings?

[Pete647580]

No Bowen? Seems much more effective than Scamacca.

My view is that Scamacca has a lot more potential than Bowen.

[Pete647580]

Danny Ings?

Bollox, I knew I'd forget someone.

He's borderline I would say.

[jastons]

This season? If yes then more effective at what exactly?

Bowen has scored one more league goal...

[the pink palermo]

So you don't think he's been 1 of our best players this season then?

So you agree he's been 1 of our best players this season? That wasn't clear.

As for Benrahma, you didn't answer so presume you agree he has been 1 of our best players this season, so where you get the over rated bit from, f*** knows.

Moderation Notice.

CNR, can you please stop trying to put your words into other peoples mouths.

Thank you

[the pink palermo]

I'm very clear on what I say. It would help if you didn't keep putting words in to my mouth or read into something that wasn't meant by it but I'm used to it.

Pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

Physician, heal thyself.

[Burnley Hammer]

Bowen has scored one more league goal...

In all competitions, Scamacca has averaged 0.4 goals every 90 minutes - which is the best ratio in the squad (Antonio's is better if you include assists too).

Bowen has averaged a goal or assist once every five games.

[Ironing Board]

This season? If yes then more effective at what exactly?

No, I'm just talking as a player. If we were just going on this season you would take out most of that list!

[Ironing Board]

My view is that Scamacca has a lot more potential than Bowen.

Not sure about that, at least for the Premier League. Maybe he will get better but I think his lack of pace is a big issue.

[MB]

Interesting way of categorising our players. I guess I would only see the following as 'top half of the PL' players:

It is completely subjective of course, but yes I don’t think we'd have many who would regularly start at top half teams. We are not exactly fighting off bids from the top teams for our players.

Puts a bit of perspective on what Moyes achieved ov3r the last couple of seasons and perhaps why the wheels came off so easily.

Players reverting to their normal performance levels.

[Ironing Board]

It is completely subjective of course, but yes I don’t think we'd have many who would regularly start at top half teams. We are not exactly fighting off bids from the top teams for our players.

Puts a bit of perspective on what Moyes achieved ov3r the last couple of seasons and perhaps why the wheels came off so easily.

Players reverting to their normal performance levels.

Yup. I would say it’s probably just Rice and Aguerd, with Bowen and Zouma at a push.

Zouma is top class but is let down by his passing while Bowen had that spell that attracted Liverpool.

[DublinDave]

My view is that Scamacca has a lot more potential than Bowen.

Agreed.
Bowen has been poor this season.
It's easy to forget how home life can affect one's life.
Having a misses growing twins won't help his form in the short term. His head will be wrecked.
Once they are born, lack of sleep will bugger up next season too.
I could be wrong, but we definitely need a serious RW backup in the summer, Antonio can cover RW when Scamacca is fit again in the interim.

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

Benrahma is a lower half of the Premier League/top of the Championship level player. The team has sunk to his level.

Twaddle. Started 30+ games last season for a team that came 7th and reached a European semi final.

He has clear flaws that will stop him from ever reaching the very top but there's no reason to play down his quality.

[Ironing Board]

Agreed.
Bowen has been poor this season.
It's easy to forget how home life can affect one's life.
Having a misses growing twins won't help his form in the short term. His head will be wrecked.
Once they are born, lack of sleep will bugger up next season too.
I could be wrong, but we definitely need a serious RW backup in the summer, Antonio can cover RW when Scamacca is fit again in the interim.

Bowen has plenty of cash to afford a nanny! A nice idea, but I can’t see how it makes sense for him to be taking turns when they wake up at night.