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[delbert]

The hypocrisy charge is a load of old bollix. It's rolled out time and time again ( often on these very pages) when people disagree with the sentiment being expressed but don't want to engage in a discussion about the topic so they jump on the person saying it. So what if they are a hypocrite? The question is are they wrong in what they are talking about?

If someone decides to take a swipe at someone else then it's only fair their own shortcomings are brought up as well, further discussion can then fail to agree on whether they're wrong or not.......

[DublinDave]

Do many people get killed while inside UK prisons? I genuinely have no idea.

I've no idea either Shabu, if there isn't, I hope he's the exception to the norm...

[Samba]

Do many people get killed while inside UK prisons? I genuinely have no idea.

Not often but it has happened.

[chelmsfordhammer91]

The hypocrisy charge is a load of old bollix. It's rolled out time and time again ( often on these very pages) when people disagree with the sentiment being expressed but don't want to engage in a discussion about the topic so they jump on the person saying it. So what if they are a hypocrite? The question is are they wrong in what they are talking about?

I get your point, but the two things can be separated.

I disagree with Dara on this one, but it's all just opinion. So what who directly paid him, he made money from the setup in Qatar. The same when Hamilton et al do the F1 over there but aren't paid by them, it's still hypocritical.

Joe's message was right though IMO, despite the hypocrisy. My gripe with this and the Beckham thing is that the promotion of the message also promotes their career and visibility, so it's only fair for people to voice if they feel there is hypocrisy involved.

It's an easy PR win from their perspective. Not that the message is wrong, but if one truly solidified the principle of it all then there would be a huge array of companies, regimes and dare I say potential sponsorship that they should be boycotting on a daily basis.

[r99c]

The Miller & Carter restaurant boat at Lakeside Thurrock has sunk

[delbert]

Iceberg?

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

Three killed in Paris gun attack

A gunman has opened fire in central Paris, killing three people and wounding three others.

Witnesses said the attacker targeted a Kurdish community centre and restaurant and prosecutors said they would look into a possible racist motive.

A suspect, aged 69, was quickly arrested and it soon emerged he had been freed from prison recently.

Authorities appealed for people to avoid the area in Strasbourg-Saint Denis in the 10th district of Paris.

There is no confirmed motive for the shooting, but Paris Prosecutor Laure Beccuau confirmed that the suspect had previously been charged with racist violence.

That incident - in which he attacked tents at a migrant camp in Paris with a sword - took place at Bercy on 8 December 2021. It was not clear why he had recently been released.

Local Mayor Alexandra Cordebard said the suspect was also wounded in the shooting and that three places had come under fire: the Kurdish community centre, a restaurant and a hairdresser. Two people were shot in the salon.


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So a year after he attacked a migrant camp he's out and about to kill.

[MB]

So a year after he attacked a migrant camp he's out and about to kill.

Clearly learnt from his year in prison; brought a gun this time rather than sword

[kenthammer]

Iceberg?

Russian sub

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

John Dodd RIP

Who? I hear you ask. John Dodd, creator of The Beast, a 27 litre RR Meteor engined 'Rolls Royce' car.

Both it and he were quite famous in their day, often featuring in car magazines and press.

[-DL-]

The Miller & Carter restaurant boat at Lakeside Thurrock has sunk

Had many a good night in there was it was predominately a boozer back in the day when it was The Old Orleans.

[Samba]

The Miller & Carter restaurant boat at Lakeside Thurrock has sunk

'The pictures sparked concerns with those booked to enjoy a Christmas meal there tomorrow.'

Concerns???

[bubbles1966]

Three killed in Paris gun attack

So a year after he attacked a migrant camp he's out and about to kill.

He's apparently attempted to murder people twice before. He had another go in 2016.

[delbert]

Is it worrying or bizarrely comforting that the French justice system is about as useless as our own?

[-DL-]

New image released as to the cause of the Miller and Carter sinking at Lakeside.

[MB]

Wishing you a very Merry Guardian Christmas (these are over a number of years but oh my days!)

[Gormalysis]

The Guardian really are a bunch of miserable *****, don’t know how anyone can read it, maybe that’s why they are always begging for donations.

[bonzosbeard]

The Guardian really are a bunch of miserable *****, don’t know how anyone can read it, maybe that’s why they are always begging for donations.

Apparently that's 8 years worth of stories. Still funny to look at though as a whole. Nice to have a bit of balance but I like a booze up and if I don't live to 90 so be it.

[Samba]

'10 years after UK's first hand transplant, patient and surgeon meet again.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-64041081
'Mr Cahill said: "It's improved knocking one out, no end. Now, it always feels like someone else is doing it. Only trouble really, is that I quite often wake up in the middle of the night with it either trying to strangle me or the wife... I think it used to belong to a f*cking psychopath..."

[Shabu]

A Maintenance Worker at a block of flats gets shot and killed on Christmas eve (& the evening of his 29th wedding anniversary) by a resident who looked out his window and thought he might be a burgler.

He was just checking for burst pipes.

Bloke leaves behind a wife and five kids.

No one arrested.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local ... 3302bdae0b