Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
She's born & raised East End girl so almost certainly a West Ham fan.
Sign her up for the Hammerettes. Fantastic exposure for the club and, given that she's obviously a go-getter, she could advise Moyes on tactics.
Any other national problems you want me to deal with just dial 1-800-Shabllfixit
Sign her up for the Hammerettes. Fantastic exposure for the club and, given that she's obviously a go-getter, she could advise Moyes on tactics.
Any other national problems you want me to deal with just dial 1-800-Shabllfixit
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
I see one flaw in your plan, it's shallow but a flaw none the less. Traditionally Hammerettes don't look like Bernie Winters tackling a particularly troublesome bowel movement........
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
I mean, "Shabu" is a contraction of "SHAmima BegUm". And, I've never seen the pair of you in the same room at the same time.
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
That's not a flaw, that's a positive. We need to evolve & diversify.
I'm also proposing Iain Dowie becoming a Hammerette.
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
If that don't persuade her to stay in Syria, nothing will.
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -a-monster
Review in Grauniad (no, I haven't listened to it yet) by Zoe Williams
"Look, there’s no gilding this: if you are British-born but have the possibility of a dual nationality as a second-generation immigrant, you do not have the same rights as, say, I do"
Have read the article thoroughly and cannot make sense of that statement.
Anyway, aside from that, she's a young woman who has had three children die. That would be a catastrophic experience which you'd think would involve deep, professional counselling in the UK. Yet I haven't read anything that alludes to SB's feelings or experience of this. Maybe it's out there somewhere. I think this has led a lot of us to assign to her a 'cynical' or immature and uncaring attitude = 'monster'.
Maybe the details are being kept away from the press by rules of medical confidentiality? Maybe she hasn't recieved counselling at all?
Review in Grauniad (no, I haven't listened to it yet) by Zoe Williams
"Look, there’s no gilding this: if you are British-born but have the possibility of a dual nationality as a second-generation immigrant, you do not have the same rights as, say, I do"
Have read the article thoroughly and cannot make sense of that statement.
Anyway, aside from that, she's a young woman who has had three children die. That would be a catastrophic experience which you'd think would involve deep, professional counselling in the UK. Yet I haven't read anything that alludes to SB's feelings or experience of this. Maybe it's out there somewhere. I think this has led a lot of us to assign to her a 'cynical' or immature and uncaring attitude = 'monster'.
Maybe the details are being kept away from the press by rules of medical confidentiality? Maybe she hasn't recieved counselling at all?
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/1 ... tizenship/
Shamima Begum ‘will exploit any error to regain citizenship’
Former IS bride believes that if she wins appeal, the UK will be unable to render her stateless in future, court told
On Tuesday, the Court of Appeal was told of claims that Sajid Javid, the then home secretary, should have properly investigated whether the state had failed in its duty to protect Miss Begum.
Miss Begum was aged just 15 when she travelled from Bethnal Green, east London, to Islamic State-controlled territory in 2015.
Her legal team claimed that Mr Javid’s failure to do so was a breach of Article Four of the European Convention on Human Rights and therefore rendered invalid his decision to revoke her British citizenship shortly after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp.
I'm sure that there are legal opinions, but how the State failed to protect her when she travelled is beyond me. if they prevented her from travelling would they have infringed on her right to travel ? but by letting her travel they failed to protect her ? obviously this is a complicated legal position but as a lay person, I don't see how you can do both.
I guess we'll find out eventually.......
Shamima Begum ‘will exploit any error to regain citizenship’
Former IS bride believes that if she wins appeal, the UK will be unable to render her stateless in future, court told
On Tuesday, the Court of Appeal was told of claims that Sajid Javid, the then home secretary, should have properly investigated whether the state had failed in its duty to protect Miss Begum.
Miss Begum was aged just 15 when she travelled from Bethnal Green, east London, to Islamic State-controlled territory in 2015.
Her legal team claimed that Mr Javid’s failure to do so was a breach of Article Four of the European Convention on Human Rights and therefore rendered invalid his decision to revoke her British citizenship shortly after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp.
I'm sure that there are legal opinions, but how the State failed to protect her when she travelled is beyond me. if they prevented her from travelling would they have infringed on her right to travel ? but by letting her travel they failed to protect her ? obviously this is a complicated legal position but as a lay person, I don't see how you can do both.
I guess we'll find out eventually.......
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
She's gotta be older than Lucas Digne by now, surely?
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
The Court of Appeal is to rule on Shamima Begum's bid to overturn the government's decision to strip her of her British citizenship today .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68372112
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68372112
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
The Court of Appeal has unanimously dismissed her appeal against removal of her UK citizenship.
All five grounds of her appeal were rejected.
All five grounds of her appeal were rejected.
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Re: Shamima Begum can't return to UK (updated)
Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:20 am The Court of Appeal has unanimously dismissed her appeal against removal of her UK citizenship.
All five grounds of her appeal were rejected.
Ah well , didn't take long . That's that then .
Wherever she is it's bound to be drier and warmer than Skye .
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