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Re: The kids are all right

Post by Bond Holder 59 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:02 pm

I hear Mipo scored two in a 5-0 u18 win today. His time will come.

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Post by steveyrockstar » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:58 am

There are more quotes from the Athletic article on Appiah-Forson here. I'd never heard anyone talk about him before.

https://www.footballfancast.com/west-ha ... ier-league

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by LeonRivers » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:35 am

steveyrockstar wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:42 pm
Does anyone know much about Keenan Appiah-Forson? He's a 19-year-old defensive midfielder currently in our U23s. The Athletic has apparently published an article on him, bigging him up, and The Athletic know their onions. Being compared to Kante!

https://www.hammers.news/news/west-ham- ... -millions/

Wondering whether he might be a surprise name rising out of nowhere. I did notice him a lot in the most recent U23 highlights, seemed to be at the heart of a lot of play.

(PS I am not called David and I still want us to sign a CM in the summer!)
He’s much more skilful than Kante. He reminds me more of Reo-Coker. High energy, skilful on the ball. Looks elegant running with it from deep, but much more natural in front of goal than Rice.

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by BigFatSam » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:37 am

westlondonhammer wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:21 pm
Playing is one thing...but training with their first team (i.e. men who are a bit rougher around the edges) also has its benefits

Too often kids are kept with their peers a bit too long and miss a little rough and ready that they'll get in the lower leagies. My guess is that is what Moyes is looking for to toughen him up a little...

I sort of disagree with this, I think it stunts their growth as a footballer if anything. Down there it’s win at all costs. It seems a physical battle in most cases, there is no emphasis on developing a footballer.

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by steveyrockstar » Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:53 pm

LeonRivers wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:35 am
He’s much more skilful than Kante. He reminds me more of Reo-Coker. High energy, skilful on the ball. Looks elegant running with it from deep, but much more natural in front of goal than Rice.
Sounds like he should already be on our bench!

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Post by LeonRivers » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:37 pm

steveyrockstar wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:53 pm
Sounds like he should already be on our bench!
He's smaller than Sullivan. I'd be worried someone would literally put him in their pocket. :lol:

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Post by steveyrockstar » Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:36 pm

He can't be smaller than Manny Ommonyinmi. He must be our smallest every player?

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Post by Derby Hammer » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:12 pm

steveyrockstar wrote:
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He can't be smaller than Manny Ommonyinmi. He must be our smallest every player?
Matty Holmes?

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Post by steveyrockstar » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:34 pm

Wasn't Matty Holmes actually Lee Evans?

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by Roby » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:45 pm

steveyrockstar wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:34 pm
Wasn't Matty Holmes actually Lee Evans?
:thup:

Absolute dead spit of Evans.

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Post by libero » Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:26 pm

I posted this on the loan thread, but maybe it should be here

I've heard plenty of good things about Tunji Akinola, about his skill, composure and physicality
And also about his character and leadership quality

But playing for Orient in League 2 at the age of 22 doesn't strike me as way of getting close to the West Ham first team.
Is he going to be another one for whom we build up hopes who then just drifts into lower league obscurity -
or might he still have a future at West Ham?

Anyone have any idea?

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Post by steveyrockstar » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:50 am

libero wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:26 pm
I posted this on the loan thread, but maybe it should be here

I've heard plenty of good things about Tunji Akinola, about his skill, composure and physicality
And also about his character and leadership quality

But playing for Orient in League 2 at the age of 22 doesn't strike me as way of getting close to the West Ham first team.
Is he going to be another one for whom we build up hopes who then just drifts into lower league obscurity -
or might he still have a future at West Ham?

Anyone have any idea?
I've never heard anyone talk about Akinola before this season. If he's on loan at Orient at the age of 22, and doing well there, then I expect he'll go on to have a decent career in the lower divisions. If he was anywhere close to the WH first team, I'm sure we'd have had more of him by now.

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Post by Kermit » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:54 pm

libero wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:26 pm
I posted this on the loan thread, but maybe it should be here

I've heard plenty of good things about Tunji Akinola, about his skill, composure and physicality
And also about his character and leadership quality

But playing for Orient in League 2 at the age of 22 doesn't strike me as way of getting close to the West Ham first team.
Is he going to be another one for whom we build up hopes who then just drifts into lower league obscurity -
or might he still have a future at West Ham?

Anyone have any idea?
Tbh I think you're probably right. Players who are going to make a career in the PL have usually been in or around the first team squad by the time they're 22. Afolayan, the guy who came on and scored against Doncaster, is another.

On a brighter note young Baptiste is someone who appears very highly rated inside the club. As is Harrison Ashby who's already played for the first team, although only in the Mickey Mouse cup. And they're both still in their teens. I';d think there's more hope of them breaking through tbh.

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by norse » Tue May 18, 2021 12:08 pm

https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/202 ... d-contract

Emmanuel Longelo signs new West Ham United contract (2023)

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by S-H » Tue May 18, 2021 12:11 pm

norse wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 12:08 pm
https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/202 ... d-contract

Emmanuel Longelo signs new West Ham United contract (2023)
That's a new LB sorted then..

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Post by psychoscoredthelot » Tue May 18, 2021 1:21 pm

norse wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:08 pm
https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/202 ... ham-united

Alese signs new contract
Aji used to play in the same team as my son when he was a kid - great player...... hopefully he can kick on and make the 1st team

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by libero » Tue May 18, 2021 3:13 pm

I've seen a bit of Longelo in coverage of some U23 matches and he does look promising.
But yes, I know, it's the U23, U23 levels

But, given the fact that he's left footed and the club think he's a prospect, does the fact
that Moyse didn't even put him on the bench when Creswell & Masuaku were missing
say more about Moyse' reticence to use youngsters, or about how far Longelo is from being ready?

Plenty of other 20 year olds get given chances & neither Johnson nor Fredericks looked comfortable on the left.
Maybe it's just my optimistic nature that makes me think some of these young lads could be used sooner

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by westlondonhammer » Wed May 19, 2021 6:34 am

If we win tonight I'd be inclined to see Longelo thrown in on the weekend at LWB.

To get a new deal at the age of 20 says the club rate him... it'll be nice to have a left footed LWB playing in our more effective formation and to end the season with a kid getting their debut will be a boost to all the other kids at the club.

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by westlondonhammer » Wed May 19, 2021 6:39 am

libero wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 3:13 pm
Maybe it's just my optimistic nature that makes me think some of these young lads could be used sooner
I think so

Moyes have given quite a few kids their debut this season, but he see's a lot more in training than we do. Does he pull the kids in with the adults for the odd training session during the week and see's that against men they still have a bit more time for example?

Mipo, Trott, Coventry and Alves have all been around the senior squad on quite a few occasions this season so would have got a bit more experience under their belt just understanding what it all means playing with the senior squad. That will be invaluable exposure that will do them well in the long run. That wouldn't have got that had we have 3 - 4 more senior player in the squad so on one hand our small squad has benefitted them.

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Re: The kids are all right

Post by libero » Wed May 19, 2021 9:38 am

westlondonhammer wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 6:34 am
If we win tonight I'd be inclined to see Longelo thrown in on the weekend at LWB.

To get a new deal at the age of 20 says the club rate him... it'll be nice to have a left footed LWB playing in our more effective formation and to end the season with a kid getting their debut will be a boost to all the other kids at the club.
Or, if nothing else, at least have him on the bench so that he can be brought on

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