It's not great to have to identify and write about it, but I think it's more so that for most, he's the weakest player in our starting lineup at the moment.
Frankfurt (and Lyon) didn't help him though, no doubt about that.
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It's not great to have to identify and write about it, but I think it's more so that for most, he's the weakest player in our starting lineup at the moment.
Neither are good enough for where we want to be. We really need to buy a left back. Cresswell would be a good backup though. I've got no use for Mas. It's a shame we can't shift him.Crouchend_Hammer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:17 am Well said TTS.
He has also hardly ever played (probably never) with the luxury of having all of Rice, Soucek, Zouma and Coufal in the team alongside him - or Fornals in front of him
Cresswell has, many times, and still looks very very shaky
Any left back looks better with Ogbonna next to them... and will hopefully do so with Aguerd next to them too. That includes Cresswell, who has been solid for us for years. Overplaying his weaknesses and dismissing what he is good at won't change that.Crouchend_Hammer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:17 am Well said TTS.
He has also hardly ever played (probably never) with the luxury of having all of Rice, Soucek, Zouma and Coufal in the team alongside him - or Fornals in front of him
Cresswell has, many times, and still looks very very shaky
TBF, he is the worst starting player we have and has 12 months on his deal.
Nobody would be slagging him off if it wasn’t for those incidents…Aztec Hammer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:15 am
Frankfurt (and Lyon) didn't help him though, no doubt about that.
He’s the weakest link in the starting 11 but he’s definitely this year’s fashionable target as the likes of Winston Reid have been before him. Not saying we don’t need to replace, we do, but some of the criticism seems a little over the top as always.
Simply not true all it did was expand the already extensive and long term criticism that goes back years now and indeed tailed off a little the season before last when he stepped up his performances somewhat after plenty of criticism prior to that since his injury. Support him or not you can’t claim that criticism on here only really materialised after those two matches, it simply does not represent the true picture.Pob! wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:47 am Nobody would be slagging him off if it wasn’t for those incidents…
It’s almost like the guy isn’t human …
The guy has had some shocking words and opinions aimed at him from so called “West Ham“ supporters …
Shameful..
Hopefully he makes them eat their own words this season.
The criticism he gets is embarrassing at times, but with some there always has to be a hate figure in the team. We seem to have a couple of them right now, both down our left hand side.
Yes too often a lack of realistic nuance as things become predominantly pro or anti the whoever the said target.Hayden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:53 am He’s the weakest link in the starting 11 but he’s definitely this year’s fashionable target as the likes of Winston Reid have been before him. Not saying we don’t need to replace, we do, but some of the criticism seems a little over the top as always.
Is there any substance to the Pellegrini rumours from credible sources?
The people actually abusing him can be found on that cesspool Twitter. It should go without saying that their 'opinions' are meaningless.Pob! wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:47 am Nobody would be slagging him off if it wasn’t for those incidents…
It’s almost like the guy isn’t human …
The guy has had some shocking words and opinions aimed at him from so called “West Ham“ supporters …
Shameful..
Hopefully he makes them eat their own words this season.
Nail - headCrouchend_Hammer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:08 am
Also, looking purely at assists is not the only yardstick to determine the attacking prowess of a full back. equally as important is their involvement in attacking play - can the carry the ball forward, can they play quick passes with the midfield to create space for others, can they play attacking passes through the line to either their winger or the CF, are they comfortable spreading play to the other flank, can they beat their opposition winger in a dribble
Let's be honest, Cresswell is pretty basic at all of those things - plus he can't defend very well
There was nowhere near the same level of criticism. To suggest otherwise is simply mischievous or deliberately deceptive.
I see very little outright slagging, but a lot of fairly reasonable points that he's the weak point in our starting 11. And that's pretty clear when you look at who we have to play where. And that's why I think most would want us to sign a first team left back rather than a youthful back up, and to spend money on that rather than, say, an Onana.
This is just lies, plenty on here and around the ground have said he’s not good enough way before Lyon and Frankfurt and way before we even wanted to consolidate at the top end of the table. It’s not shameful or shocking to criticise a bloke that’s made millions off the club for not being up to the standards required. I wish him luck in making people eat their words, he’ll need itPob! wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:47 am Nobody would be slagging him off if it wasn’t for those incidents…
It’s almost like the guy isn’t human …
The guy has had some shocking words and opinions aimed at him from so called “West Ham“ supporters …
Shameful..
Hopefully he makes them eat their own words this season.
Everybody knows he was signed as a 4th choice veteran that wasn’t supposed to be playing week in week out so he was cut some slack. Only natural that a bonafide first 11 starter is put under more scrutiny. You won’t find anyone that thinks Cresswell isn’t good enough to start that thinks Dawson is good enough to startStation to Station wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:18 pm Regarding Cresswell, Dawson has also made detrimental mistakes in big games over the last couple of seasons and hasn't received anywhere near the same scrutiny. He got sent off against Newcastle and conceded the penalty against Southampton in the Cup. Also got sent off against Chelsea.
Seems to be double standards at play in the way criticism is dished out. Not that either player is deserving of it, they have both been good servants to West Ham.
Dawson was a backup who came in and for the most part did a good job before moving back to the bench.Station to Station wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:18 pm Regarding Cresswell, Dawson has also made detrimental mistakes in big games over the last couple of seasons and hasn't received anywhere near the same scrutiny. He got sent off against Newcastle and conceded the penalty against Southampton in the Cup. Also got sent off against Chelsea.
Seems to be double standards at play in the way criticism is dished out. Not that either player is deserving of it, they have both been good servants to West Ham.