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Plashet Grove Pete wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 2:18 pm And another one ... at a university this time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63624611
Have a look at this article. It explains the terrifying aftermath of this shooting for the students. First they received a text saying "There's an active shooter" then later a second one saying "RUN. HIDE. FIGHT." & they had TWELVE hours of not knowing.
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It sounds to me like this was a targeted attack. The shooter was a former member of the football team. The 3 men murdered, and a a couple who were injured were current members of the football team. The shooter had mentioned to his father that he was having trouble with some people who were picking on him, and that he didn't know what to do about it. By all accounts the victims were all good people, so who knows whether the shooter had been bullied or whether he imagined it. Either way, given how this went down it certainly could have been a whole lot worse.
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The kid who killed 10 black people in a Buffalo supermarket because he was upset about the Great Replacement Theory is going to plead guilty.

I don't get how these people come to being who they are. Apparently his parents aren't racist, he came from a nice family, his best friend had a black girlfriend but he got sucked into an internet world which made him want to kill black Americans. The irony is that the Great Replacement Theory is that Democrats want to replace white Americans with non white immigrants* - so why target black people whose ancestors were brought here by whites 400 years ago?

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/bu ... ad-guilty/

* - Tucker Carlson on Fox 'news' was avidly promoting this until this mass shooting.
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Ikea's range for the US market......
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delbert wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:39 pm Image

Ikea's range for the US market......

Utter madness.

You need a machine gun for suppressive fire not an assault rifle.
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Five dead after attack at nightclub in Colorado
A gunman opened fire inside a gay club in the US state of Colorado on Saturday night, killing five people and injuring 18.

A suspect was in custody and being treated for injuries, police said.

Club Q, in Colorado Springs, released a statement on Facebook saying it was "devastated by the senseless attack on our community", and thanking customers who "subdued" the gunman.

In 2016, 49 people were killed in a shooting at a gay club in Florida.

Colorado Springs police said they received an initial emergency call about an active shooter at 23:57 (06:57 GMT) on Saturday.

The suspect was found inside the club when police entered.

Police did not immediately suggest a motive for the shooting and said the number of dead and injured could change as the investigation continues.

A fire department spokesman said casualties had been transported to hospitals very quickly, due to training for events such as this.

A statement on the Club Q Facebook page thanked "the quick reactions of heroic customers that subdued the gunman and ended this hate attack".

The club was hosting a dance party at the time, and had planned to hold a performance event on Sunday evening to celebrate Transgender Day of Remembrance.


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alf git wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:47 pm Utter madness.

You need a machine gun for suppressive fire not an assault rifle.
Ideally yes mate, but as the saying goes*, "you can only piss with the cock you've got", if it comes to it, an assault rifle will do. Indeed the British army has taken this one step further and bizarrely use a single shot rifle for fire suppression.......

* And I doubt Ikea have even bothered doing their homework with regards beaten zones and belt fed versus magazine fed.
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As usual each side of the political divide are blaming each other.

The Left - we need to restrict easy access to guns. The republicans and NRA are to blame.

The Right - stop legalising drugs & go to church. That'll stop mass shootings.
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Shabu wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:49 pm The Right - stop legalising drugs & go to church. That'll stop mass shootings.
Wasn't the Charleston Church shooter an evangelical Christian?
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It turns out that the grand dad of this latest shooter is a big maga fan and was the Mayor of a town near San Diego called Santee, nicknamed Klantee because of it's longterm ties with racism.
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WCpete wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:51 am The man who stopped the shooter.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1594863 ... UcIf7U6Jrg
A bloody hero is who this man was who saw an opportunity to stop a man with an Armalite. Many heroes died trying the same including the Norway attack.

What pathetic weak bullies these are with guns against unarmed people.
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And another. Number of deceased not known yet.

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/ ... b5bca1b94
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WCpete wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:34 am And another. Number of deceased not known yet.

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/ ... b5bca1b94
Sounds like ten are dead and it was a manager at Walmart who started shooting employees in the break room :shocker:
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Here's a website that offers the other point of view, showing a load of statistics that 'prove' mass shootings are not an American problem & we shouldn't blame big guns either.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... shootings/
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Shabu wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:18 am Here's a website that offers the other point of view, showing a load of statistics that 'prove' mass shootings are not an American problem & we shouldn't blame big guns either.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... shootings/
Well, I'm convinced. Americans don't have a gun problem.

Loved this on the BBC:

Virginia state Senator 'heartbroken'
Democratic Virginia state Senator L. Louise Lucas said that she was "absolutely heartbroken" over the shooting in Chesapeake.

"I will not rest until we find the solutions to end this gun violence epidemic in our country that has taken so many lives," she said on Twitter.

How about taking guns away from people? Although of course that won't happen because it's not the American way.

Americans. You gotta love 'em.
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Some Americans still believe there's only one way to stop a bad guy with a gun and that's a good guy with a gun
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Shabu wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:18 am Here's a website that offers the other point of view, showing a load of statistics that 'prove' mass shootings are not an American problem & we shouldn't blame big guns either.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resour ... shootings/
That's a weirdly laughable way to cut statistics. 'Mass shootings aren't a problem, look, people with guns kill people in a myriad of other ways too!'.

Just. Stop. Selling. Guns. To. People.

The only people that should ever - ever - have access to guns are those who need them in their line of work, and even then they should be left at work at the end of the day, locked up, never to come out. Armed military or police personnel who need them in specific circumstances.
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https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/colora ... orneys-say

Colorado shooter’s attorneys are saying he identifies as non-binary, which is likely an extremely cynical attempt to mitigate the hate crime charges. So instead of 20 life sentences he’ll get 15. f*** off.
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