Insulate Britain could be coming to a road near you!! c****. Cant believe that they actually liken what they are doing with soldiers going off to WWII.
Insulate Britain could be coming to a road near you!! *****. Cant believe that they actually liken what they are doing with soldiers going off to WWII.
I can, it's their arrogance showing through. A lot of them seem to be pensioners, pensioners who are pulling up the drawbridge after they've had their bite of the carbon pie.....
If you get annoyed at the disruption a handful of wallys blocking a road for half an hour causes then I've got some really bad news for you about the disruption climate change is going to cause.
delbert wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:18 pm
I can, it's their arrogance showing through. A lot of them seem to be pensioners, pensioners who are pulling up the drawbridge after they've had their bite of the carbon pie.....
Thing is , Delbs , you don't agree with any of them , young or old - they're either ' Middle Class Kids with nothing better to do ' or ' Pensioners who've had their bite of the carbon pie ' .
I'm going to go against the grain of my usual Conservative views and say that I can see where these guys are coming from, albeit Insulation is a random topic to go on.
At the end of the day it looks like Climate Change is a real thing and we need to do something about it. That COP26 was a waste of time and actually made the climate situation worse given the number of private jets flying in and out.
The message isn't getting through, even to the general public. I'll even admit I buy a carrier bag 9 times out of 10. We need to do something and, whilst I think their protests are sh*t and are being done the wrong way, I can sympathise.
What I can't take is the hypocrisy. Joanna Lumley, a woman who's enjoyed a rich career and specialised in travel programmes, now saying foreign holidays should be rationed...after she's travelled the globe.
I'm not sure I agree with this - it possibly creates more harm than good - most young people are aware of climate change and what they can do to help slow it down - recycling , eating less meat etc - young children have enough to cope with while at school , they'll be worrying about exams and the usual schoolkid stuff , their mental health is put under enough strain without adding the stress of climate change to it .
Billy - I think that's pretty much spot on. The insulate Britain guys are beyond annoying in their tactics. Their main spokesman comes across as a cretin. But concentrating on the message rather than the messenger for a moment unless we just give up and resign ourselves to accepting there's nothing we can do to protect our planet then one day we will yearn for the good old days when a main inconvenience to our lives was the irritating Insulate Britain lot.
As an aside, I wonder if as a species it's easier for our own mental health to concentrate on relative minutiae (I'm aware that for some of their 'victims' it's far more than minutiae) like the disruption these guys cause rather than focus on the really big, scary, bigger picture of vast tracts of our currently liveable world no longer able to sustain us, the flooding of many of our world's cities and towns, less capacity to these those we have, the mass migrations beyond biblical scales that will occur in response to all of this, etc, ec, etc. Is it just too big for us to contemplate?
DaveWHU1964 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:53 pm
Billy - I think that's pretty much spot on. The insulate Britain guys are beyond annoying in their tactics. Their main spokesman comes across as a cretin. But concentrating on the message rather than the messenger for a moment unless we just give up and resign ourselves to accepting there's nothing we can do to protect our planet then one day we will yearn for the good old days when a main inconvenience to our lives was the irritating Insulate Britain lot.
As an aside, I wonder if as a species it's easier for our own mental health to concentrate on relative minutiae (I'm aware that for some of their 'victims' it's far more than minutiae) like the disruption these guys cause rather than focus on the really big, scary, bigger picture of vast tracts of our currently liveable world no longer able to sustain us, the flooding of many of our world's cities and towns, less capacity to these those we have, the mass migrations beyond biblical scales that will occur in response to all of this, etc, ec, etc. Is it just too big for us to contemplate?
When you consider that
- there were 500 or so lobbyists for fossil fuels at COP26
- and how cement companies are burning plastic waste to drive their kilns,with funding from
"consumer giants"
- and how many pension funds must be reliant on these global companies to turn a dollar
- I can't see a way out of this until individual countries are forced to change tack by the inevitable disasters that will come (and by then it may be too late anyway)
Consumer goods giants are funding projects to send plastic trash to cement plants, where it is burned as cheap energy. They’re touting it as a way to keep plastic out of dumps and use less fossil fuel. Critics say it undercuts recycling efforts and worsens air quality. One said it was “like moving the landfill from the ground to the sky.”
That's assuming all the plastics you recycle actually get recycled and not put in shipping containers and sent to landfill in Malaysia.
Client change is happening, but I am still to read any hard evidence on man's contribution, with my skepticism fuelled by the headline "restricting global temperature increases to 1.5 degrees", which itself is based upon an arbitrary date 150 years ago. To give that some context, if the earth was formed at midnight and the present moment is midnight the next day, modern man has been on the planet since 23:59:59.
However, with that said, it doesn't mean we need to rape the earth of its finite resources and we need to be more careful, whether that be getting the latest phone every year, mining bitcoin with server farms that has an electricity bill equal to that of Sweden, buying Chinese manufactured ****, repairing opposed to replacing and most of all, stop having too many ****ing children.
I'm a little disappointed that Covid didn't wipe out 3/5 of the world's population, that's the only way to reverse this agonising slow slide into oblivion. Unless its just a warning from Mother Nature. "See the kind of stuff I can do? Get your ****ing house in order or next time it's for reals".
Monkeybubbles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:39 am
I'm a little disappointed that Covid didn't wipe out 3/5 of the world's population, that's the only way to reverse this agonising slow slide into oblivion. Unless its just a warning from Mother Nature. "See the kind of stuff I can do? Get your ****ing house in order or next time it's for reals".
If anything it will have done the opposite and increased humanities god complex.
RichieRiv wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:53 pm
That's assuming all the plastics you recycle actually get recycled and not put in shipping containers and sent to landfill in Malaysia.
Monkeybubbles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:39 am
I'm a little disappointed that Covid didn't wipe out 3/5 of the world's population, that's the only way to reverse this agonising slow slide into oblivion. Unless its just a warning from Mother Nature. "See the kind of stuff I can do? Get your ****ing house in order or next time it's for reals".
Well covid started in China and they couldn't give a **** about climate control or the environment, so wha hope have we got
I'd hazard a wild guess that at least 70% of the plastics we buy at the supermarket are not currently recyclable,in any case.
If that. Coke bottles only want the tops, from what I see it looks like the rest may not be recycled (obviously I'm not sure, but it seems to be the case).
You're not alone Pete.