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Aztec Hammer wrote: Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:12 pm He’s definitely degeneratively crocked though, isn’t he?
Was talking to someone ITK last night. Apparently he has knees of an "80 year old" and we'll be lucky to get another full season out of him after this one.
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Do his previous clubs fan's say similar things about him re running style etc? Might be that's just the way he's built?
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westham,eggyandchips wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:39 am Was talking to someone ITK last night. Apparently he has knees of an "80 year old" and we'll be lucky to get another full season out of him after this one.
Man, I hope I can still run around, and play football when I'm 80.
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What I find more baffling is we kind of heard of the knee problems around the time he just had his medical here, and yet we still decided to sign him.

Going forward it’s imperative we have fit, robust centre halves on our books. We had our warning signs last season with Oggy’s long term injury and Zouma’s on-off injury struggles, and still crazily went into this season with the pair of them.

We at least attempted to start this in the summer with Aguerd and Kehrer. But we will need 1-2 more in the next couple of windows when Dawson and Oggy inevitably leave.

If you sign a robust centre half and then he picks up an injury, as was the case with Aguerd, it’s just unlucky. Sadly these things can happen. But if you sign any player with previous injury problems, or shows issues in his medical and still go ahead with the signing, you can’t then complain when the player constantly picks up injuries after you’ve signed them. It was our choice to ignore the warning signs.
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funky chicken wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:22 am What I find more baffling is we kind of heard of the knee problems around the time he just had his medical here, and yet we still decided to sign him.
Yep, peak West Ham that. :furrow:
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He must have a case of the Ledley Kings and Paul McGraths

Both of those played with ****ed up knees but couldn't train or walk much between games
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Thing is for all his knee issues he is our best defender !

I would like us to get a CB in january especially if dawson goes. I quite like salisu at southampton. young fit fast , he would surely be happy to join us for around 25m ?
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hammerman11 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:22 am Thing is for all his knee issues he is our best defender !

I would like us to get a CB in january especially if dawson goes. I quite like salisu at southampton. young fit fast , he would surely be happy to join us for around 25m ?
With Aguerd returning (expected to be on the squad tonight) I’d say there is zero chance we sign another centre back in January.

I expect that will leave us needing to sign two new CBs in the summer with Kehrer moving to RB and both Dawson/Oggy leaving.
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For £30M, with his level of experience, he is a decent signing.

He's been playing around 2000 min of Prem football for many years. That is decent.
We also play with a lower press, so not the amount of running for our centrehalves.
A reason Dawson has been better for us, than expected.

Kehrer, Aguerd, Zouma should be enough for most of the season.
Ogbonna or Dawson as an emergency reserve, or one of the more talented lads coming up.

If we play with two centrahalves, that should be more than good.
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Crouchend_Hammer wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:58 am He must have a case of the Ledley Kings
Is he related to Ben Johnson?
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S-H wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:13 am Man, I hope I can still run around, and play football when I'm 80.
In the Premier League no less.
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jastons wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:48 am Is he related to Ben Johnson?
Yes, Ben is related to Ledley King and Paul Parker. Good pedigree.
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Cornelius Beal wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:48 am Yes, Ben is related to Ledley King and Paul Parker. Good pedigree.
Is he really?

Someone should tell BT Sport about this.
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westham,eggyandchips wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:39 am Was talking to someone ITK last night. Apparently he has knees of an "80 year old" and we'll be lucky to get another full season out of him after this one.
And of course our medical team didn't pick this up when we signed him
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ageing hammer wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:57 pm And of course our medical team didn't pick this up when we signed him
I think it’s more the case of Moyes believing it was worth the risk. I don’t see how a PL team misses that.
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Poor sod will develop arthritis in those knees in later life
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westham,eggyandchips wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:39 am Was talking to someone ITK last night. Apparently he has knees of an "80 year old" and we'll be lucky to get another full season out of him after this one.
Was it David Sullivan, confirming he also doesn’t have any ligaments in his knees..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... 011370.amp

Whatever Zoumas knees condition are it's certainly not effecting the way he consistently plays well for us for us both last season and now this one. He's been an excellent signing and look forward to many more appearances to come in a West Ham shirt. 👌
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S-H wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:13 am Man, I hope I can still run around, and play football when I'm 80.
Mmm….the obvious retort is: yeah, but could you play half as well when you were forty?

It’s not the running around aged 80 that’s the problem! It’s remembering why you are running around at age 80? And then finding a soft stopping spot with easy access to get back up, in say ….. 30 minutes…..or how ever long it takes to remember where you put your stick.

Trust me, all ‘later life’ sport is best played in your head and in your memory. It’s what enables you to educate the young regarding how to do it.

I could have been a contender…..I just cannot remember at what?
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Puff Daddy wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:42 pm Poor sod will develop arthritis in those knees in later life
I didn’t realise you knew s-h that well?
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For all his supposed issues he plays 30-40 games per season year on year out.
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