✍ Nikola Vlasic

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Ironing Board » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:10 pm

WCpete wrote:
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Lingard scored 9 goals for us last season. That's a pretty high ceiling.
Lingard was playing at an unsustainable level. He has never done better in his whole career.

The Croatians believe Vlasic is going to be their future star playmaker and he comes from a family of sporting excellence. Once he’s bedded in he will be incredibly influential. The way he uses space is magnificent.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by HammerAl » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:10 pm

I think he’s a really good player.

And he looks like a more “rough around the edges” version of Ted from Schitt’s Creek.
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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by IlGallo » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:14 pm

This self-righteous “We don’t do that here” drivel in regards to going down easily does my head in. Every attacking player for every other club in the pyramid is guilty of it yet we should put ourselves at a disadvantage cause of some delusion that we’re a more honourable club than anyone else.

He hasn’t even done any outrageous ones yet.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Bubbles Fortuna » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:19 pm

HammerAl wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:10 pm
I think he’s a really good player.

And he looks like a “rougher around the edges” version of Ted from Schitt’s Creek.
I've been saying this for months!

Finally someone who agrees with me! :lol:

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Danny's Dyer Acting » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:20 pm

sendô wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:07 pm
Half full, or half empty?
The cup or his skull?

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by HammerAl » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:24 pm

Bubbles Fortuna wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:19 pm
I've been saying this for months!

Finally someone who agrees with me! :lol:
Can just imagine him getting into his blue scrubs after a game and going to tend to his animals.

If his other half looks anything like Alexis then she’d be more than welcome at our club as well.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by bubbles1966 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:32 pm

IlGallo wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:14 pm
This self-righteous “We don’t do that here” drivel in regards to going down easily does my head in.
Would you eat **** just because you saw others doing it?

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by IlGallo » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:35 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Would you eat **** just because you saw others doing it?
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that analogy made more sense in your head.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by bubbles1966 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:36 pm

IlGallo wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:35 pm
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that analogy made more sense in your head.
There's no need, and skip the deflection.

So, would you lower yourself just because others do it?

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by The Straw » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:44 pm

I'm reminded of Brian Clough (even though he died when I was young..!).

'I want to win it better'.

It would be great to do something special with an honest team.

It would be a great antidote to the antics that we see (and the media don't) from the Sly 6 clubs.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by WCpete » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:49 pm

Ironing Board wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:10 pm
Lingard was playing at an unsustainable level. He has never done better in his whole career.

The Croatians believe Vlasic is going to be their future star playmaker and he comes from a family of sporting excellence. Once he’s bedded in he will be incredibly influential. The way he uses space is magnificent.
I'm in Vlasic's corner and I think he's starting to look like he fits in. I'm not sure I'd say his ceiling is considerably higher than Lingard's though, because even if Jesse only scores 5 rather than 9, he'd still be well ahead of most of the players in our side. Goals are king.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Bubbles Fortuna » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:54 pm

WCpete wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:49 pm
I'm in Vlasic's corner and I think he's starting to look like he fits in. I'm not sure I'd say his ceiling is considerably higher than Lingard's though, because even if Jesse only scores 5 rather than 9, he'd still be well ahead of most of the players in our side. Goals are king.
That being said, Vlasic has scored more career goals than Lingard despite being 5 years younger.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by bubbles1966 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:56 pm

I don''t see how we can rage at Calum Wilson punching the ball in the net, and then be happy when Hernandez does it, if we have a shred of class or integrity.

And if Salah falling over with a vague gust of wind appals us, then we can't turn a blind eye when ours (incl Vlasic) do it.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by WCpete » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:02 am

Bubbles Fortuna wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:54 pm
That being said, Vlasic has scored more career goals than Lingard despite being 5 years younger.
50% of them in the Russian league, but I take ur point. I'm rooting for him to replicate that form with us. We need it.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Ironing Board » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:38 am

WCpete wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:49 pm
I'm in Vlasic's corner and I think he's starting to look like he fits in. I'm not sure I'd say his ceiling is considerably higher than Lingard's though, because even if Jesse only scores 5 rather than 9, he'd still be well ahead of most of the players in our side. Goals are king.
Lingard is someone who people always said was a “promising young player” even in his late 20s!

I think Vlasic shows the sort of commitment to his career that will propel him higher. Lingard was too happy to rest on his laurels at Man Utd.

His lack of ambition is pretty startling. He chose to sit around at Man Utd, where he knew he had virtually no chance of becoming a starter, over moving.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by hammerman11 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:06 am

Time to move on from lingard I am beginning to think

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Crossd_Hammrs » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:42 am

bubbles1966 wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Would you eat **** just because you saw others doing it?
I wouldn't. Well, not "just because". However if it was common practice and I saw others were being handsomely rewarded for doing so I might reconsider.

Would you do it for a £5m a year?

I'm not condoning our players start out and out diving, but I'm not going to dig them out for "going down easy" while having their shorts pulled down from behind, or for accepting a free kick when they slipped while turning (arguably with a little push). Not when opposition players are getting rewarded with match-winning free kicks and penalties from out-and-out dives every week.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Clucking Bell » Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:59 am

^^^ I must admit that this is where I'm at too. Citeh revert to shithousery anytime the opposition steps over the halfway line; Salah and Kane go down faster than the late Ms. Lovelace and you'd easily be convinced that Arsenal's entire team had run into a machine gun nest.

The problem is that neither the idiots at PMGOL, nor the PL, nor the FA won't address this ****. Was Lanzini the only player to get a ban for diving? By the same token, Salah would miss every other game.

There comes a point where, if the authorities won't clamp down on the worst offenders, then, if you can't beat them, you may as well join them.

I don't think there's any moral high ground to be had here .... If I've got a choice of winning by a bit of shithousery or losing because of someone else's shithousery, I'll take the former thanks very much.

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by Ironing Board » Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:19 am

bubbles1966 wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Would you eat **** just because you saw others doing it?
Depends - are there peanuts in it?

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Re: ✍ Nikola Vlasic

Post by westham,eggyandchips » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:28 am

bubbles1966 wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:32 pm
Would you eat **** just because you saw others doing it?
If it helped me win a trophy then I'd sample it.

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