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iamakka wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 7:55 pm Vlasic this season has reminded me more then anything of the start of Fornal's time at the club.
It was nothing of the sort. He was always good, he's just got better and better.
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Just get rid ASAP
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hammerman11 wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:51 pm Just get rid ASAP
you or him ? asking for a friend ?
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Aztec Hammer wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:28 pm His sister Blanka is 7 inches taller than him.
Should have signed her.
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Lanzini was given plenty of time if you consider how he had a poor few seasons. And when he did get back into form, it was patchy at best for me. And more importantly, he was given the opportunity to play a variety of positions. Some which suited him better than others. Vlasic has not been given a fair crack at all. Moyes' fault or is there more to it and he isn't up to scratch in training either?
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I still don't think we've given him much of a chance. He rarely played substantial minutes in games back to back and even more rarely in his natural position in a team of primarily first XI players.

Moyes' man management of him is really rather baffling.

However if we don't plan on ever giving him a run of games in his natural position in a settled team then we might as well cut our losses.
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It seems Moyes was determined to mould him to play on the left just as he did with Fornals. Questionable decision if that is the case.
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Perhaps he wasnt a Moyes signing!! Razzle Dazzle :thdn:
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War Pony wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:09 pm Perhaps he wasnt a Moyes signing!! Razzle Dazzle :thdn:
Moyes:
“I am delighted to welcome Nikola to West Ham United,” the manager said. “I have been watching him improve over recent seasons – he has got a good goals and assists record during that time. He is also a Croatia international with experience and still being only 23, I feel there is more to come from him.

“I was really impressed with how determined Nikola was to become a West Ham player. It’s that hunger and ambition that fits with what we are trying to build here at the Club.”
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Maybe he has created a stink?

I don't really understand us signing him.
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He'll be our top scorer this season :coolas:
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War Pony wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:09 pm Perhaps he wasnt a Moyes signing!! Razzle Dazzle :thdn:
There's no way Vlasic was a Sullivan signing when you consider all Moyes comments and the Everton connection. Vlasic's pedigree and attitude all seem to point to him being a Moyes type of player, which just makes his treatment of him all the more baffling.
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Perhaps Moyes is still prepared to give him time. Maybe the interest from Torino et al is due to him not playing and support from his Croatian coach to leave so they sense an opportunity to prise him away. BUT the fact he featured so infrequently does ring alarm bells and suggests he isn't favoured.
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For all we know it's the player who wants out because of lack of playing time, not the manager. World cup and all that
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norse wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:45 pm For all we know it's the player who wants out because of lack of playing time, not the manager. World cup and all that
Can't blame him. He's been shoddily treated.
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The upfront fee AC Milan were talking was allegedly £17m (€20m) with another £8.5m (€10m) in add-ons.

Torino now allegedly concerned about his €3m a year wages here according to Italian media. That's £50k a week.

Those numbers are much less grand that the kind of stuff being reported over here. Perplexing.
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norse wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:45 pm For all we know it's the player who wants out because of lack of playing time, not the manager. World cup and all that
print off a lingard mask and he'll find himself nailed to the XI.
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I would be sad to see Vlasic go. I think there’s more to come from him but he needs to be given a proper chance in his proper position before we can really judge him. From what I’ve seen there have been glimpses.

I don’t think I’ve said a bad word about Moyes since him rejoining but this will go down as a) a very poor use of funds (if sold for the proposed figures) and b) poor management of a player who needs to integrate into the the English league. Both of which I believe the ultimate blame lies with Moyes.

He is allowed a mistake or two though. Still love ya Moyesey
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I can never understand it when clubs pay substantial sums for players, presumably because the manager rates them, and then play those players in unfamiliar roles to the one they have made their name in. You watch a player several times, he plays well and you take a punt. Then you play him in a different role and seem to be surprised you're not watching the player you bought.

Isn''t it a bit like one of us buying a Mercedes 240 and dropping a 1200 c c Ford engine into it ?
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I'm not so sure the role he was asked to play just a bit more to the left was so alien to what he's allegedly better at. He still should have showed some signs of real quality and yet after 30 odd appearances 1 way or another he simply failed to make his mark. You could see him looking like a rabbit in headlights a lot of the time and no slight positional change was going to drastically improve that. In the Prem, twice now, he simply isn't all that good. We are doing the right thing shipping him iut on loan to Perm move by looks of it.
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