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EvilC wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:23 pm They are planning to ration the stuff, throwing money at it won't solve the problem.
I honestly think people in this country would riot if that were to happen. What chances of this government being re-elected if they introduce /oversea rationing?
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Is the rationing more likely on the continent than here?
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jastons wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:30 pm I honestly think people in this country would riot if that were to happen. What chances of this government being re-elected if they introduce /oversea rationing?
This country no longer has the guts to
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Denbighammer wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:37 pm Is the rationing more likely on the continent than here?
It is really unlikely here without some sort of event (hurricane, something that disrupts Norwegian or North Sea supplies). France and Belgium should be ok too. Germany and Italy are in deep ****.
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Can't afford a heat pump yet...also hoping new tech comes out

However temped to get immersion tank and induction hob to make it little gas as poss
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:18 pm Can't afford a heat pump yet...also hoping new tech comes out

However temped to get immersion tank and induction hob to make it little gas as poss
When I was looking there was a solar immersion thing I saw that (I think) you can use with an existing tank.

Immersion heaters are bloody expensive so make sure the solar is doing the work.

Someone (rays I think) posted a thing about multi fuel source tanks. That might be the way to go.

On another note if anyone has a way to store the million degree heat from the conservatory that would be helpful lol
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SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:29 pm When I was looking there was a solar immersion thing I saw that (I think) you can use with an existing tank.

Immersion heaters are bloody expensive so make sure the solar is doing the work.

Someone (rays I think) posted a thing about multi fuel source tanks. That might be the way to go.

On another note if anyone has a way to store the million degree heat from the conservatory that would be helpful lol

See I've seen a 3kw immersion heater

My tariff will be 11p a kw

Seems cheaper than using gas!
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jastons wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:33 pm Will they though? People will pay whatever it costs for gas / electric / petrol & diesel.
And when they can't afford to do that?
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A other 7p a litre at Asda in Yeovil in a matter of 3 days.

I heard barrel of oil price has been going down!
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If the Ruskies turn off the gas and completely screw most of Western Europe...who are they going to sell it to in the future? They can only send so much to China etc.

Perhaps Putin isn't thinking that far ahead and thinks he'll have pressed the button by then.
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Perhaps he thinks some countries will eventually agree to his demands of paying in rubles and not arming Ukraine, something he can present as a victory.
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:46 pm Perhaps he thinks some countries will eventually agree to his demands of paying in rubles and not arming Ukraine, something he can present as a victory.
I think he’s getting paid in roubles already.
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bonzosbeard wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:05 pm
I heard barrel of oil price has been going down!
As has the value of the pound. We also rely on out fuel from other countries as the refineries have closed down. We no longer refine our own oil.

Most of our diesel came from Russia, we're now having to get it from other sources such as India, and it's the same with petrol, which if course means adding higher transportation costs. There are only so many ships available.

We have plenty of storage, just no way if making oil based fuels ourselves.

With a weak pound against the dollar and it falling faster in comparison to the price of oil falling, we're still paying record prices for oil despite the appearance that oil is cheaper.
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This would be elite.

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Thanks for the updates and information/knowledge you pass on Evil, I wouldn't really have a clue otherwise..

Nothing new there, mind.

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EvilC wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:20 am This would be elite.

What would that mean? Less reliance on Russian gas?
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:31 am What would that mean? Less reliance on Russian gas?
Yes. I can't imagine it'll be quick, but also it is a quality trolling move given how this was Russia's tool to get the Germans even more hooked on Russian gas than they were already.
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We have juat had notfication that our high street will be shut for 7 weeks whilst Cadent replace the metal gas pipe with plastic to "protect the long term future of gas supply".

What future? Boilers are being phased out, the government are telling us to move away from gas due to energy security.

So why waste the money?
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Because it’s likely the natural gas date for ceasing will continue to be pushed back, and when rather than if hydrogen becomes the future it’ll be supplied via the existing pipelines. Hydrogen is more searching so more likely to leak than methane so likely future proofing as much as anything imo
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