The Energy Crisis

[EvilC]

I've just been reading this article, there's loads of gas and electricity for rock bottom prices available in this country right now, but NOBODY will see a reduction in their fuel bills ...

https://news.sky.com/story/the-surreal- ... t-12614797

In the same way you haven't taken all the pain on the way up, you won't get benefits on the way down.

[EvilC]

By Lars Paulsson and Jesper Starn
(Bloomberg) -- French electricity prices climbed after the
region’s biggest power producer cut its nuclear output target
for a third time this year, the latest sign that the region’s
power crisis is worsening.
Less electricity from Electricite de France SA’s fleet, the
backbone of Europe’s integrated power system, is sending prices
higher just as soaring inflation is pushing up costs for
everything from gasoline to food. It could get even worse in
winter as France, a traditional exporter of electricity, may be
forced to import more from its neighbors.
French power contracts for the fourth-quarter jumped as
much as 8.6% after EDF lowered its annual target for this year
to 280 to 300 terawatt-hours from 295 to 315 terawatt-hours
previously. The outlook for the following year remains unchanged
for now, the firm said.
EDF Sees Bigger Earnings Hit as It Cuts Nuclear Outlook
The big test will come when the temperatures start to fall
toward the end of the year. It won’t take many days of cold
weather to jeopardize French power supplies, according Emeric de
Vigan, chief executive officer at French energy analysis firm
COR-e.
“Which such poor nuclear availability, if we reach 2
degrees Celsius below normal in the winter for a few days we
could be in trouble, it would be really tight,” he said. Paying
customers and factories to lower consumption are steps that
likely will need to be taken, he said.
Western Europe has for decades relied on exports of power
from EDF’s nuclear fleet. The cuts are another blow to European
energy security just as the region is weaning itself off Russian
supplies of everything from natural gas to coal and oil because
of the war in Ukraine.
The fourth-quarter French power contract was up 3.2% at 480
euros a megawatt-hour as of 10:07 a.m. local time on the
European Energy Exchange AG. It traded at a record 531 euros
earlier this month.
Less output from EDF’s plants also mean a higher dependency
on fossil fuels to keep the lights on when demand peaks. Output
from the fleet of 56 nuclear reactors is forecast to be 25%
lower than usual this winter, according to a recent analysis by
Baringa Partners LLP. Higher imports would also push up prices
in neighboring markets, the industry consultant said.
Europe’s Biggest Exporter of Power Might Need Imports in
Winter
EDF’s nuclear output, which peaked at 430 terawatt-hours in
2005, was already on the wane even before the latest issues. It
fell to 335 terawatt-hours in 2020 when the pandemic affected
production and demand, but rebounded to 361 terawatt-hours last
year.
The challenges for the utility are now so great that
President Emmanuel Macron has suggested some of its key
activities could be nationalized as part of a broader plan to
bolster the country’s energy independence.

[sendô]

Just caught up with this thread.

Agreed with Hummer on the shocking cable install done for mumbles with cables stretched across the front of the gas meters.

Re dead legs, you want them gone as they are indeed breeding grounds for all sorts of water born parasites in closed water systems such as central heating, legionella being one of the best known and worst of them.

As to minimum distances between water and electric systems, there is no legal definition, and in truth the fact that power is needed for a lot of water systems such as pumps, sumps etc such a law could not really exist, so it's generally best practise - i.e keep the ****ers apart if you can.

Still, designers do it all the time. Like on the project I am on where they've put shower and changing facilities on the floor above the 11000V dry type transformers and guess where the drainage for the showers runs....

[mumbles87]

Just caught up with this thread.

Agreed with Hummer on the shocking cable install done for mumbles with cables stretched across the front of the gas meters.

Re dead legs, you want them gone as they are indeed breeding grounds for all sorts of water born parasites in closed water systems such as central heating, legionella being one of the best known and worst of them.

As to minimum distances between water and electric systems, there is no legal definition, and in truth the fact that power is needed for a lot of water systems such as pumps, sumps etc such a law could not really exist, so it's generally best practise - i.e keep the ****ers apart if you can.

Still, designers do it all the time. Like on the project I am on where they've put shower and changing facilities on the floor above the 11000V dry type transformers and guess where the drainage for the showers runs....

The gas meter is miles from there it's not even in the picture? Let me see if I can even find it

[mumbles87]

Dp

[mumbles87]

Sendo



Gas is complete other side

Pipe goes out the back to , along the outside house and to boiler in kitchen

As you can see this was pre last week..

Is the bit everyone worried about on the left the smaller consumer unit with wires going to the Henley block?

[sendô]

Yeah sorry, across your electric meter. Teaches me to glance quickly and assume.

They've seen an old install with a few cables running all about and just slung the new ones across. They're barely long enough.

Sorry, it's a bit of a bugbear of mine. In truth it wont actually affect anything so long as they've terminated them properly and there's no tension on the cables, which it appears there isn't. It's just a bit **** the way they've done it.

The dead legs on the pipes is more of an issue.

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

Is the bit everyone worried about on the left the smaller consumer unit with wires going to the Henley block?

Nah mate, just the shocking state of the red carpet..

[mumbles87]

Yeah sorry, across your electric meter. Teaches me to glance quickly and assume.

They've seen an old install with a few cables running all about and just slung the new ones across. They're barely long enough.

Sorry, it's a bit of a bugbear of mine. In truth it wont actually affect anything so long as they've terminated them properly and there's no tension on the cables, which it appears there isn't. It's just a bit **** the way they've done it.

The dead legs on the pipes is more of an issue.

I think the pipes are litterally empty.. otherside of that wall used to be kitchen (before we arrived) and boiler

Now it's part of living room

Boiler is in kitchen and the pipes for drinking water go up the wall the other side room (found that out the hard way)

It does look messy I'll agree that lol when I can be bothered I'll get all added to one unit. (If you want the work?? Lol) I want all the consumer Units (including car) on the one ideally rather than 2 Units and an MCB

Safe to say the solar install has been done well it's the loft wiring that's in question

[mumbles87]

Nah mate, just the shocking state of the red carpet..

That's not mine! Lol came with the house in 2014

It covers no floor boards aha

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

Just caught up with this thread.

Agreed with Hummer on the shocking cable install done for mumbles with cables stretched across the front of the gas meters.

Re dead legs, you want them gone as they are indeed breeding grounds for all sorts of water born parasites in closed water systems such as central heating, legionella being one of the best known and worst of them.

As to minimum distances between water and electric systems, there is no legal definition, and in truth the fact that power is needed for a lot of water systems such as pumps, sumps etc such a law could not really exist, so it's generally best practise - i.e keep the ****ers apart if you can.

Still, designers do it all the time. Like on the project I am on where they've put shower and changing facilities on the floor above the 11000V dry type transformers and guess where the drainage for the showers runs....

A bit of vinyl flooring and they'll be fine..

[alf git]

I realise critiquing mumbles electrics is thread drift, but, if that was my meter install i wouldn't have been happy with that.
Which is probably why i don't earn bonus

[mumbles87]

I realise critiquing mumbles electrics is thread drift, but, if that was my meter install i wouldn't have been happy with that.
Which is probably why i don't earn bonus

Which of the 3 meters are we speaking of lol

[alf git]

Which of the 3 meters are we speaking of lol

Electric.


That said I'm sure there would be something with the gas that would make my teeth itch

[mumbles87]

Electric.


That said I'm sure there would be something with the gas that would make my teeth itch

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a rushed job lol the guy didn't hang about

[delbert]

Just found this from Havering (had to look hadn't seen)

Getting the £150 payment for direct debit payers
Over 49,000 residents who pay their Council Tax by Direct Debit should receive their £150 Rebate in their bank account on Thursday 19 May 2022.

If you pay by Direct Debit and do not receive your payment by Friday 20 May 2022, this may be because your bank details are different from your Council Tax details.

Please be patient as we will review all of these accounts and contact you direct.

We will continue to make payments over the coming weeks to residents who have recently provided their bank details by Direct Debit.

The payment will be credited to your bank account if you set up a Direct Debit now.

The payment will be made to the bank account from which the Direct Debit is taken.

My lot are Labour so can't be trusted with direct debits, I have no intention of propping up Venezuela or funding the council leaders deep seated narcissism. To claim manually they've gone down the online equivalent of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy route:

“But the plans were on display…”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

The government have stated that councils are to contact those that do not pay by DD and have the payments actioned this by September, my lot haven't contacted us yet and the council have said (from behind the Beware the Leopard Sign) that you've only got until the end of August to claim it by, no mention of what happens after that.
Apparently other councils have simply reduced their council tax by £15 a month which wasn't in the plan, it seems to be a bit of a free for all how this is being implemented......

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a rushed job lol the guy didn't hang about

I'm not surprised, Mrs mumbles never makes me tea when I'm over, no meter man is going to be happy that they weren't offered a cup 'o rosey.

[mumbles87]

I'm not surprised, Mrs mumbles never makes me tea when I'm over, no meter man is going to be happy that they weren't offered a cup 'o rosey.

Luckily she is blessed in other departments because her tea is lacking

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

Price cap to rise to £2800 in October

[mumbles87]

https://www.ft.com/content/ddbde592-a4e ... 566790403f