Leeds Utd 1-2 West Ham Utd (25/09/21)

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by irving boleyn » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:42 pm

Try and get a look at Phillips chasing back after Fournals in the one to one situation.

Went heavily into the back of him, hurting him considerably with no justification.

The ball was still live. Why no infringement called?

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Post by Albie Beck » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:55 pm

Thought that at the time - he meant to hurt Fornals, could have avoided the contact but instead left some on. And he did that a couple of other times, once on Bowen. Dirty player.

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Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:09 pm

irving boleyn wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:42 pm
Try and get a look at Phillips chasing back after Fournals in the one to one situation.

Went heavily into the back of him, hurting him considerably with no justification.

The ball was still live. Why no infringement called?
I thought precisely that, too.

Fornals isn't a play-actor.

I thought it showed pretty poor playing judgement, too. Fornals basically ran half the length of the pitch unchallenged.

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by DM » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:14 pm

Turtlecharityracer wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:36 pm
World class. That's some statement.

I stated British type CH. No frills but defends for his life type.
I'd call Bilic a British type CH when he was with us.
Bilic is Croatian. Always has and always will be. He's a Croatian type of defender not British. You're still talking b*llocks AND on a wind up as other, much respected, posters have said.

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Turtlecharityracer » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:28 pm

DM wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:14 pm
Bilic is Croatian. Always has and always will be. He's a Croatian type of defender not British. You're still talking b*llocks AND on a wind up as other, much respected, posters have said.
Nice insulting post on a football forum, not echo chamber, made for opinions.

If you want to talk about other posters, I dont think you'll get ONE who agreed with you that Zouma is world class.
World class defender signs for West Ham for £25 million??!?!??

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by sendô » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:30 pm

We weren't great first half, but much better second. They visibly started to tire in the last 15/20.

Disallowed goal was fair, but I thought the yellow was harsh given Antonio was merely jumping for the ball. Some people asked for a red, wtf?

Worry for me was how open the game was at times, we lacked ability to impose any control and relied on Leeds being profligate at times.

Still, another win where we werent great and might have lost, and we're still 3 points up on corresponding fixtures from last season.

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Post by El brooko79 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:34 pm

Dodged a bullet with Firpo I reckon.
Didn't think much of him and suits a disorganised free spirited Leeds defence

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Post by Essexmaniac » Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:42 pm

Joffrey wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:03 pm
One thing that was mentioned in the commentary was that we were “flat” against their back 4, our attacking players not dropping off for the ball nor making runs in behind. Difficult to tell on TV, did that come across for those that were there? Might explain why defensive players like Zouma were bringing the ball forward themselves if it was static ahead.
Bielsa goes man for man for man marking. When balls were played into Antonio the young defender Cresswell was breathing down his neck. Until more gaps appeared there was a bit of frustration about the lack of movement at times, though having said that we still created plenty of chances.
I think the way Leeds play they invite you on, waiting for a defensive error ( see Soucek) after Zouma had ventured forward, or win the ball back and break at speed.So not sure if Zouma was instructed to exploit the space or if he took the initiative?

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Post by DM » Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:14 pm

Turtlecharityracer wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 10:28 pm
Nice insulting post on a football forum, not echo chamber, made for opinions.

If you want to talk about other posters, I dont think you'll get ONE who agreed with you that Zouma is world class.
World class defender signs for West Ham for £25 million??!?!??
Unfortunately, it's true what they say. Never argue with an idiot as they'll bring you down to their level and beat you by experience.

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Post by YorksHammer » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:38 am

I'd rather have Zouma getting forward every so often than Craig Dawson barely controlling the ball on the edge of our own box.

I don't think it's unfair to point out that he can't do that as often as he did on Saturday, though. He's more than likely used to playing in a higher line than we do, which is what's leading to it. The thing to do, and one thing we did do, is that if Zouma does go on one of those runs one of Soucek and Rice has to cover it off. Soucek was doing that when we conceded, and unfortunately he muffed it.

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Danny's Dyer Acting » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:52 am

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Zouma being in that position isn't a problem. Soucek has dropped in where you'd want the right sided centre back and everyone else looks pretty well set

Soucek can't give the ball away there and probably should give away a free kick/take a booking once he has done so. The problem with Zouma is the tracking back, he doesn't even come back into shot until the ball hits the back of the net.


EDIT: Probably should have taken the screenshot when Zouma passed it back. Soucek's desperate recovery makes it look worse than it was :crylol:

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Georgee Paris » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:56 am

Diop likes a foray forward every now and then and I’ve noticed ogbonna has found himself in attacking situations a few times recently. Maybe it is something we are developing. I like it. Adds to the random chaos factor.

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Post by Up the Junction » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:01 am

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Post by steps » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:11 am

The fella who claimed Antonio should of been sent off I found amusing. A centre forward has every right to challenge for an aerial ball in front of goal.

We weren’t really at it first half, started brightly but Leeds’ intensity was high. They fizzled out in the second half like most Bielsa teams do. He demands too much from players to go all out for 90 minutes sometimes it just not possible.

Brilliant to see West Ham snatch a win like that in the dying minutes, especially away from home. Rice’s pass and the finish from Antonio were just top drawer, a worthy match winner.

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by loftyboy » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:56 am

One of the last posters on the OV reckons our team is worth £320m. They must value Rice even more highly than we do😂

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Post by DasNutNock2 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:03 am

Not a terrible OV, all things considered. Plenty of realists who are aware of their team’s weaknesses and deficiencies. The normal handful of delusional whiners, but generally a fairly balanced outlook. FWIW, they do need to develop some alternative strategies but there’s enough there for me to think they’ll be okay over 38 games.

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Post by ironilunga » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:05 am

loftyboy wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:56 am
One of the last posters on the OV reckons our team is worth £320m. They must value Rice even more highly than we do😂
Rice 100mil
Soucek 40mil
Zouma 25mil
Bowen 40mil
Benrahma 30mil
Diop 20mil
Vlasic 25mil
Antonio 15mil
Coufal 30mil

That’s just 9 players and already there 👍

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by psychoscoredthelot » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:05 am

pretty decent OV to be honest

they are a good side and will be mid table i reckon - they just got beat by a very good west ham side

great win for us

its funny isnt it that when we go 1-0 down im confident in us pulling it back - in the past used to think that 1-0 will soon turn into 3 or 4 -0

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:06 am

steps wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:11 am
...........

Brilliant to see West Ham snatch a win like that in the dying minutes, especially away from home. Rice’s pass and the finish from Antonio were just top drawer, a worthy match winner.
Don't underestimate the quality of Vlasic's lifted pass to Rice either. 'Twas a thing of beauty.

Thinking about it, it was Antonio who won a defensive header just outside our penalty area which dropped to Vlasic, a few seconds later he was scoring at the other end of the pitch. No wonder he looked shattered after the game :grin:

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Re: ⚽ Leeds Utd vs West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by EvilC » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:15 am

Disappointed by the OV, aside from a few complaints over the foul by Antonio they are a reasonable bunch.

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