West Ham Utd 3-2 Chelsea (4/12/21)

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by funky chicken » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:16 am

Morocco Mole wrote:
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I’d drop Bowen before Benny.
Bowen has 2 assists and 1 goal in his last 5 League games. Benrhama has 1 goal and 1 assist in his last 11. The goal taking a wicked deflection to go in. And you’d drop Bowen before Benrahma!?

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by Georgee Paris » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:17 am

I’d drop Antonio before Bowen

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by Puff Daddy » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:04 am

We're not going to beat these by attempting to play football. No way. That is why I advocate nullifying their threat, by lumping it up

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:08 am

Fab
Coufal
Zouma
Diop
Cresswell

Rice
Soucek
Kral

Vlasic
Benny
Antonio

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by prophet:marginal » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:28 am

I don't think we can bring back Cresswell until after Reece James' visit. James will run up and down his flank all game long and make a real mischief of himself on the overlap. I would keep Johnson there, but detail Fornals as his partner in negating that Chelsea threat.

Zouma can go toe to toe with Lukaku. Dawson is a solid enough defender to keep his place.

Coufal might sensibly have another defensive minded player ahead of him, perhaps Fredericks for this match.

We hunker down. We score on the break. One of Bowen, Fornals or Mike simply need to step up in this match.

I am undecided as to whether to go with Vlasic and have Ben on the bench.

Lanzini still needs to be a sub, imo, but can play from the start against Zagreb and Spurs in the cup.

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by likemydreams » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:04 am

Play anything like we did last night and this will be an embarrassment

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by Morocco Mole » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:10 am

funky chicken wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:16 am
Bowen has 2 assists and 1 goal in his last 5 League games. Benrhama has 1 goal and 1 assist in his last 11. The goal taking a wicked deflection to go in. And you’d drop Bowen before Benrahma!?
Convenient ignoring of his 2 goals and all round superb performance against Genk.

As I said earlier none of the front four are pulling up trees over the last month - not in the league anyway - but Benrahma remains our number one creative outlet.

Without his individuality there doesn’t seem to be much else beyond set pieces.

Cresswell is a big loss in this respect and Lingard is looking more and more of a no brainer. I don’t think he’s necessarily great at creating for others but at least he can pick a spot past the keeper.

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Re: West Ham Utd v Chelsea - Saturday 4th December

Post by ageing hammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:11 pm

I have lost patience with Benrahma, think he needs time on the bench, not sure if Lanzini can do full 90 mins of what Moyes expects from the front players yet so Vlasic for me.

I would not play Masuaku ever again every time he plays he costs us a goal and we lose.

Need Bowen, Antonio and Fornals to start putting away any chance we might get no more near misses please.

We can bring on Benny and Lanzini for more creativity if needed.


------------------------Fab

Coufal-----------Dawson---------Zouma---------Cresswell


--------------Soucek---------------Rice


Bowen-----------Vlasic-----------Fornals

--------------------Antonio

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by vietnammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:35 pm

Think we've no chance here. Trying to do a Lawro reverse-curse

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Garry » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:59 pm

People keep saying we are still 4th but we might not be after tonight

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by fjthegrey » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:01 pm

I would genuinely think about resting Antonio for this game.

Bring in Vlasic for him and go false 9 with Bowen.

I like the idea of Antonio as a change the game sub for 30 minutes more than the idea of him playing within himself to try and get through the 90.

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Clacton-ammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:06 pm

Was just about to post the same thing thing FJ - Agree on a False No.9, Antonio on the bench and smash it up 30 or so mins to go. Great minds all be it I am clearly better looking than you and without any doubt getting more sleep than you. :D

I think we will see a bounce back this weekend after a few average displays.

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by fjthegrey » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:10 pm

Clacton-ammer wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:06 pm
I am clearly better looking than you and without any doubt getting more sleep than you. :D
I'll take that bet. :fire: :eyes:

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Clacton-ammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:12 pm

Sleep or good looking, I'm deffo wining one of those :lol: :asleep:

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by 1966 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:20 pm

Garry wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:59 pm
People keep saying we are still 4th but we might not be after tonight
People keep saying it because we are 4th.

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by hammerman11 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:25 pm

We are until tonight if arsensl win , so I will be cheering man utd on

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by docarnie » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:05 pm

hammerman11 wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:25 pm
We are until tonight if arsensl win , so I will be cheering man utd on

The draw would keep us 4th but more importantly would 2 rivals both dropping 2 points.

Also, cheering for Man U?

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Metal Hammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:50 pm

docarnie wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:05 pm
The draw would keep us 4th but more importantly would 2 rivals both dropping 2 points.

Also, cheering for Man U?
Make him write 100 lines - I must not cheer for Man Utd

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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Morocco Mole » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:58 pm

If you think we’re bad my Chelsea mate (56 year old season ticket holder) turned off last night and went to bed at half time “they were so ****”. They won 2-1.

Let’s not become them. PLEASE. :pray:
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Re: ⚽ West Ham Utd v Chelsea: match thread

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:10 pm

Watford had a real go at Chelsea last night and were unlucky to lose
We need to play with the same energy, not like we did in the home game last season

FWIW, this is the line-up that started when we beat them 3-2 back in 2020

Fab
Fred
Diop
Oggy
Cress
Rice
Soucek
Fornals
Bowen
Lanzini
Antonio

Of course, YArmo came on and got the winner

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