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Michael Carrick

Post by boleyn boy » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:22 am

Would Michael be a good addition to our coaching/backroom staff?
He never let us down as a player and had no choice in being sold.
He is well respected in the press and footballing circles and I get the feeling Moyes like him.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by ageing hammer » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:41 am

Alan Irvine replacement?

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by boleyn boy » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:53 am

ageing hammer wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:41 am
Alan Irvine replacement?
I personally think it was Alan Irvine that changed the way we play into how we play now, back when he had the reins when Moyes had covid. Unfortunalty Irvine is part time so a full time assistant along side Irvine with a younger outlook could be a good thing. Carrick has a well respected football brain and has the experiance of being a backroom member at a big club and has worked with david Moyes at that cub.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by Alf Garnett's (Ex) Missus » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:56 am

According to a lot of ManUtd fans he is part of the problem there with the poor tactics and coaching...but to be fair what do they know

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by sendô » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:15 pm

Yeah I've never considered Man Utd fans to be particularly knowledgeable about football.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by MB » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:27 pm

Alf Garnett's (Ex) Missus wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:56 am
According to a lot of ManUtd fans he is part of the problem there with the poor tactics and coaching...but to be fair what do they know
Which is meant to have come from the players. As you say though, a fair few of them said the same about Mr Moyes!

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by boleyn boy » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:46 pm

MB wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:27 pm
Which is meant to have come from the players. As you say though, a fair few of them said the same about Mr Moyes!
yeah and a lot of em have said they would have Moyes back and he should have been given longer. Funny thing is the mancs improved under his 3 game reign. Im sure if the players were unhappy they wouldnt have give him big hugs after last nights game like one or two of them did.
High ego players and there are quite a few at Old Trafford do not like leaders who are more articulate than themselvs and managers who havnt got an ego but then saying that they got rid of Murinio.
Personally l couldnt give a F... what manc fans think.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by I8CHAVS » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:49 pm

In his interview said he would be spending more time supporting Manchester United and mentioned going with them in the away end, another one that never played for us tbf along with Rio

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by Mega Ron » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:14 pm

I8CHAVS wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:49 pm
In his interview said he would be spending more time supporting Manchester United and mentioned going with them in the away end, another one that never played for us tbf along with Rio
We were just their worst job in football.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by BigFatSam » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:37 pm

Pretty sure he’s left in order to get a managerial job somewhere

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by Skandi Brudson » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:26 pm

Wasn’t he a coach under Olé Olé? When they were little more than a laughing stock? Why would we have him as a coach? Just because he played here once upon a long time ago?

No from me.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by Doc H Ball » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:19 pm

Good luck to him whatever he does. Truly great player and seems very level headed.

I remember us going up to Sunderland with a centre half crisis and he played there when he was a teenager. It was one of those games when you know you’ve seen someone a level above. Peter Reid was interviewed after and said he was the best youth player he’d seen.

One of the ever infuriating things about the ‘what if?’ generation of Johnson, Ferdinand, Cole, Lampard, Carrick, and Defoe is just how ideally they’d have complimented each other.

That bloke who wrote about what London would look like if the Nazis had won should try his hand at The Greatest Team You Never Saw.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by WCpete » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:27 pm

Only if Moyes wanted him.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by DaveWHU1964 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:29 pm

boleyn boy wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:22 am
Would Michael be a good addition to our coaching/backroom staff?
He never let us down as a player and had no choice in being sold.
I disagree BB. I doubt this will be a popular opinion but I think Carrick was lucky in 2003-2004, that first year down that Defoe was stinking the place out deliberately getting sent off so he could get away from us. Had that little turd not been as blatant as he was I think more attention would have been paid to Carrick's disinterest in giving us 100%. A 5/10 season at best that year for an otherwise excellent player.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by boleyn boy » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:11 pm

DaveWHU1964 wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:29 pm
I disagree BB. I doubt this will be a popular opinion but I think Carrick was lucky in 2003-2004, that first year down that Defoe was stinking the place out deliberately getting sent off so he could get away from us. Had that little turd not been as blatant as he was I think more attention would have been paid to Carrick's disinterest in giving us 100%. A 5/10 season at best that year for an otherwise excellent player.
WHU I get what your saying but he was no worse than any one else that season overall
I'm not saying we need him or even want him
I just thought it would be a good conversation to have and as yours and the other replies show there is varied opinion

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by the pink palermo » Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:54 am

I've no issue with him associating his time as a player with Manchester United - to be fair it looks good on a CV, but he did win 10, count'em, major trophies with them, as against, er, none with us.

A Rolls Royce of a player, the pick for my money of the Cole, Lampard group, Frank of course scoring far more goals but I always felt Carrick was the more cultured footballer.

Good luck to him in whatever he does, he did at least hang around for one full season in the fizzy, which was not the same as others.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by Joffrey » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:07 am

boleyn boy wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:53 am
I personally think it was Alan Irvine that changed the way we play into how we play now, back when he had the reins when Moyes had covid.
This is very silly.

Silly Boleyn Boy.

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Re: Michael Carrick

Post by RichieRiv » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:37 am

I always felt that - especially in the fizzy pop league - that he was simply too good for us. He could ping a pass crossfield with pinpoint accuracy, there was just never another player on the end of it.

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