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kenthammer wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64101437
Another one takes a fall
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… me too. Not a Russian one though.
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Abe Froman?
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Tenbury wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:30 am ..... to a bungalow.
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Beyond parody, this.


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Up the Junction wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:25 pm Beyond parody, this.
Is that compare related to Ronnie Corbett? :chin:
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Monkeybubbles wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:36 am When I grow up I want to be a sausage tycoon.
Living in Brighton you may have some competition there :rofl:
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Greatest Cockney Rip Off wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:25 pmIs that compare related to Ronnie Corbett? :chin:
My first thought, too GCRO!
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Up the Junction wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:25 pm Beyond parody, this.
EUMB has really changed.
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A second battery of Patriots and a load of IFV's on there way from the USA and Germany.

That's fine but they need tanks, proper tanks.

Abrams M1 plus a load of support kit for building bridges quickly, logistic support, deployment of Ammo.
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The Iranian drone factory might need an unfortunate accident too.
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:11 pm The Iranian drone factory might need an unfortunate accident too.
Open the door for the Russians to attack Ukraine's arms suppliers? Too many of those, granted
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vietnammer wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:15 pm Open the door for the Russians to attack Ukraine's arms suppliers? Too many of those, granted
may be just a slight dose of 'electronic covid', just to slow things down a bit, without altogether halting production?
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the pink palermo wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:52 am A second battery of Patriots and a load of IFV's on there way from the USA and Germany.

That's fine but they need tanks, proper tanks.

Abrams M1 plus a load of support kit for building bridges quickly, logistic support, deployment of Ammo.
I don't disagree with the "need" but they cannot maintain them or keep them fueled PP. There are already problems with NATO kit having to go back to Poland for servicing and maintenance meaning it is out of action for long periods.

Plenty of Ukrainians being trained in NATO countries at the moment and I'd suspect at least some of that is on more advanced systems but you need huge supply lines and large numbers of support troops to keep this stuff in the field.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64250202

The war in the East continues to be destructive and horrific. Depending on who you believe (!) Soledar remains in Ukrainian hands with an estimated 15,000 Russian casualties to make the “progress” they have so far. That number could be double that.
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Is it when NATO sends in actual front line troops that it becomes NATO fighting Russia?

Just that I keep seeing that all these weapons platforms are being sent over to help the Ukraine, Challenger tanks now, along with some serious missiles & rockets and stuff. sure there must be loads of 'advisors' over there as well.
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:38 pm Is it when NATO sends in actual front line troops that it becomes NATO fighting Russia?

Just that I keep seeing that all these weapons platforms are being sent over to help the Ukraine, Challenger tanks now, along with some serious missiles & rockets and stuff. sure there must be loads of 'advisors' over there as well.
My understanding is there are no boots on the ground. The risk is too high. All training etc is in NATO countries.
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:38 pm Is it when NATO sends in actual front line troops that it becomes NATO fighting Russia?

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Regardless of whether there's a recognised definition, I think the pragmatic answer is "When Russia decides it is."
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Up the Junction wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:25 pm Beyond parody, this.
This is frightening, and not just for it’s corny production.

They’re obsessed with the “special military operation”, everything is propaganda.
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