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What happened to 1, 2 & 3? Going straight to 4 is like the kid with no social skills who goes to "hope you die" without the natural escalation through "your mum" first........
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Hammer Matty wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:08 pm A wayward missile or a purposely placed landing I wonder? :chin:
From what you’ve seen over the last 8 months, do you really think this is anything other than Russian incompetence?

Not sure what the game is here for Russia but they’ve shown they can’t get a band of merry men together to beat one country, let alone destroy NATO.

I also doubt China would have any interest in helping them given how much The West pumps out there.
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vietnammer wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:56 pm He must know he couldn't take on NATO, unless he goes 'top of the world, Ma'.

Russia saying the reports are deliberate provocation aimed at escalating the situation. All speculation for now I guess.
Talk that it might have been debris from a shot down missile.
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Billydinho wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:08 pm I also doubt China would have any interest in helping them given how much The West pumps out there.
China to Putin...

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Sounds like an off target, or knocked off target rocket. But...Russia need to explain.

Really playing with fire.
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Obviously part of the gear they've been slinging at Kiev all day. One crew was on the voddy.
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So close to an article 5 violation..

This could get very serious very quickly :shock:
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According to some in Russia,the bombs in Poland was British provocation.

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EvilC wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:51 pm Some NATO bloke on BBC said that it would be Article IV which comes before Article V.
Indeed. A basic evaluation of whether national security, borders or infrastructure are safe from invasion and go from there. This was obviously Russian military incompetence and not a test of NATO's resolve but it does now give Poland a very strong postion within NATO and will undoubtedly increase support for Ukraine from that part of the world.
Pob! wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:43 pm So close to an article 5 violation..

This could get very serious very quickly :shock:
Calm down honky tonks. It'll do nothing of the sort.
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Greatest Cockney Rip Off wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:58 pm Indeed. A basic evaluation of whether national security, borders or infrastructure are safe from invasion and go from there. This was obviously Russian military incompetence and not a test of NATO's resolve but it does now give Poland a very strong postion within NATO and will undoubtedly increase support for Ukraine from that part of the world.
The guy was really good IMO. Very measured. If he wasn’t it could have been a Day Today War episode on BBC News.
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If it does escalate,will the UK government reintroduce the home guard?
That's a bit of me that is.
Silver linings and all that.
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No.3 topic trending on Twitter.

No.1 is Taylor Swift.
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woodgreenspur wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:02 pm If it does escalate,will the UK government reintroduce the home guard?
That's a bit of me that is.
Silver linings and all that.
Don't panic!

You're not a butcher by trade are you? :)
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bonzosbeard wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:32 pm Don't panic!

You're not a butcher by trade are you? :)
With my knees I think I'd be more like Godfrey
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Was Pike’s scarf supposed to be West Ham?
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btajim - mcfc wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:16 pm Was Pike’s scarf supposed to be West Ham?
Villa fan.
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Did kind of make me chuckle earlier when some Russian commentator said NATO should invoke Article 5 to come to the aid of Poland by invading Ukraine as it was them that done it...

Obviously this is purely speculation but really can't see what they can gain by deliberately targeting Poland like this....more likely a missile destroyed by Ukraine Air defence?
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it was an accident....nothing to see here!
p.s NATO won't do anything (this time)
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NATO will do something I suspect. It can’t not. I imagine for starters it will be Russia and its diplomats having the consequences of a repeat performance, accident or no accident, made clear to them.
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