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NATO running out of munitions. Read yesterday that Germany has less than two weeks worth of some munitions (NATO guidance is to have 30 days). Production also proving problematic

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No shock. Yet another German in a position of influence in bed with Russia

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I highly doubt it's just the Germans. Someone needs to follow all of the Russian money in London.
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sendô wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:23 pm I highly doubt it's just the Germans. Someone needs to follow all of the Russian money in London.
They do. The difference is that for us it is more of an indirect influence with our financial services businesses making a killing from it for a long time. But when push came to shove we reacted quickly and decisively at a political level while countries like Germany and Italy didn't as too many in positions of influence are bought and paid for.

It is the difference between turning a blind eye to the washing of Russian money vs being directly in the pay of Putin.
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Spot on MB.

I work for a very large financial services firm (TPA for investments/pensions and pretty much any collective investment scheme you can think of).

About a month before the actual invasion/war started (when the Russian troops were building up near the Ukrainian border), our head honchos had meetings with government reps basically saying that it was going to happen and to have the reporting/auditing in place to essentially freeze the assets of certain 'high risk' individuals our clients had on their books.

When it actually kicked off, within about 3 days we had everything that needed to be frozen. Not just Russian oligarch type individuals but nominee clients our own clients have that were linked to it all in varying degrees.

I would have thought the same or similar happened across the board at the time.
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It's only 30 years since German reunification. I would imagine that there is a number of people involved in the German intelligence community who's allegiances used to be with the east.
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I’m not sure we can clearly state the full extent of Russian influence here, we have a Russian sitting in the House of Lords.

The Austrian secret service has for a long time been so compromised by the Russians that it is effectively carved out of EU information sharing.
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alf git wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:56 am It's only 30 years since German reunification. I would imagine that there is a number of people involved in the German intelligence community who's allegiances used to be with the east.
Such as Merkel?
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dasnutnock3 wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:44 am Such as Merkel?
The whole German manufacturing model was built on the premise of cheap Russian gas, was it not? :chin:
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alf git wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:38 pm The whole German manufacturing model was built on the premise of cheap Russian gas, was it not? :chin:
To make the machines to sell back to the Russians so they can make rockets, bombs and bullets based on the revelations yesterday.

They aren't alone, but definitely the worst culprit in Europe.
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Hopefully someone will give us all a lovely Christmas present and shoot Putin in the face :pray:
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Macca1973 wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:17 pm Hopefully someone will give us all a lovely Christmas present and shoot Putin in the face :pray:
^^^^^To be honest I'm quite surprised/impressed he's survived this long, what with all those carelessly discarded cigarettes an' stuff.
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Three Russians killed at an airbase. By wreckage from a shot down drone according to Russian sources. Have seen claims on Twitter that all three killed were pilots so one hell of an assist by the Russian Air defence if true as pilots are very hard to replace.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64092183
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They don't seem to be having much luck with falling debris. Shame.
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How to make a plan, and then carry it out:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -bettered/
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kenthammer wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64101437
Another one takes a fall
If I was a Russian tycoon, I wouldn't be going anywhere near any hotel windows..
In fact, I wouldn't be seen dead near one..
Except I probably would be..
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And he was only one day away from retirement...
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..... to a bungalow.
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