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Bend it like Repka wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:22 am When people who rig these election come up with such results, do they actually think that anyone actually believes them?

Farce
I saw a video showing the votes being counted. Blank ballots almost all being put immediately in the 'yes' pile without being looked at.

It's all becoming very 1984
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Danny's Dyer Acting wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 4:42 pm War is over everyone, the people have spoken!

I can't believe I lumped on 'no'..
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chelmsfordhammer91 wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:25 amI saw a video showing the votes being counted. Blank ballots almost all being put immediately in the 'yes' pile without being looked at.
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Kherson is on the fence
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EU proposes new sanctions package to ‘make Kremlin pay’
The head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, has announced a fresh round of proposed sanctions on Russia.

The new package of Russia sanctions is designed “to make the Kremlin pay” for escalating the conflict in Ukraine through mobilisation and “sham referenda that are an illegal attempt to grab land and change international borders by force”, she said.

The proposed eighth sanctions package includes further import bans on Russian products, expected to deprive Moscow of an additional €7bn in revenues.

The EU will also extend export bans on key technology used for the military such as aviation items, electronic components and specific chemical substances. This will “weaken its capacity to modernise” Russia’s military base, she said.

The sanctions package will lay the legal basis for an oil price cap and ban EU citizens from sitting on governing bodies of Russian state-owned companies, she said.
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^^^^Does this mean that up to today, key technology used for the military such as aviation items, electronic components and specific chemical substances aren't under sanction?
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:51 pm ^^^^Does this mean that up to today, key technology used for the military such as aviation items, electronic components and specific chemical substances aren't under sanction?
Well, evidently some stuff wasn't, but it does say "extend".
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Samba wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:28 am I can't believe I lumped on 'no'..
Made me LOL that thanks!

What I don’t understand is that ever since they announced these votes, the whole sane world has stuck a great big middle finger up….and (rightly) told them loudly it’s a load of b*llocks. Whilst I appreciate this is primarily aimed at a domestic audience, surely if they’d gone 58/42 or something….it would have at least had some kind of semblance of possible reality and devalued at least some of the noise coming from the West. But these numbers are just hilarious!
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Will there ever be a better time to invade Russia ?
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the pink palermo wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:40 am Will there ever be a better time to invade Russia ?
Yes, the Spring. Autumn is the absolute worst time to invade Russia, as history has shown.
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sendô wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:11 am Yes, the Spring. Autumn is the absolute worst time to invade Russia, as history has shown.
I was going to say December, I hear Russia is quite nice around that time of the year.
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the pink palermo wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:40 am Will there ever be a better time to invade Russia ?
The smart thing to do would be to remove the puppet government of Chechnya. Create a little bit of chaos on their own doorstep and necessitate the need to divert resources to the Caucuses region.
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There’s allegedly “credible intelligence” that Mad Vlad is planning a nuclear attack within Ukraine create a wasteland that’ll stop the counter offensive by the Ukrainian forces.

This is a bit of a worry it true.
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Billydinho wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:26 am There’s allegedly “credible intelligence” that Mad Vlad is planning a nuclear attack within Ukraine create a wasteland that’ll stop the counter offensive by the Ukrainian forces.

This is a bit of a worry it true.
Any sources for that?
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sendô wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:11 am Yes, the Spring. Autumn is the absolute worst time to invade Russia, as history has shown.
Summer isn't actually ideal. Operation Barbarossa took place in June under blazing sunshine.
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Greatest Cockney Rip Off wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:46 am Summer isn't actually ideal. Operation Barbarossa took place in June under blazing sunshine.
Yes, but it wasn't the summer portion that was the issue, it was the mud in the autumn rains and then the ice in the winter that stopped the Germans, not the summer sunshine.

In fact, Barbarossa started late, and should have commenced in mid May, and was over a month late because the German diverted into the Balkans. Of course they also lost time whilst Hitler diverted panzer armies from Army Group Centre to the south to support the attack in Ukraine.
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It'd be interesting to know how the people of the Donbas regions would actually vote, if it could be done without intimidation or fear of reprisal.

My understanding is that the area was largely pro Russian, however it is hard to know which sources to trust. Also, to what degree, and whether the local opinion has changed since this invasion
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Russia to formally annex four more areas of Ukraine


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63072113

The Russian president will make a major speech at the Kremlin.
If ever there was a point to see some Jason Bourne type ****...
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Even if they many were pro Russia before I think many wouldn't be now after seeing their families raped, tortured and forcible conscriped as cannon fodder into the Russia army and witnessing their cities flattened by indiscriminate Russian artillary
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