Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

The Forum for all football-related discussion, including West Ham United FC. Our busiest Forum and the place to begin if you're new to KUMB.

Moderators :  chalks, Gnome, last.caress, Wilko1304, Rio, bristolhammerfc, the pink palermo

Post Reply
User avatar
S-H
GIF Git
Posts: 32022
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:05 am
Location: Kumb Inn
Has liked: 478 likes
Total likes: 790 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by S-H » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:16 am

Klipperty used the 'effects' of covid on his side being unable to beat 10 man Arsenal.

Didn't they have a number of false positives?

User avatar
wolf359
Posts: 20724
Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 6:22 pm
Location: 7.9 light years away
Has liked: 165 likes
Total likes: 244 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by wolf359 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:17 am

S-H wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:16 am
Klipperty used the 'effects' of covid on his side being unable to beat 10 man Arsenal.

Didn't they have a number of false positives?
You forget the worry a fit, multi-millionaire footballer suffers when falsely diagnosed.

Garry
Posts: 689
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:27 am
Has liked: 3 likes
Total likes: 9 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by Garry » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:25 am

Of course this is what burnley are doing there waiting to see if theybcan buy players this month I agree what the Southampton manager said you can only play these games with the squad you had at the time not new players but you know that's not going to happen

User avatar
wolf359
Posts: 20724
Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 6:22 pm
Location: 7.9 light years away
Has liked: 165 likes
Total likes: 244 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by wolf359 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:26 am

Garry wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:25 am
Of course this is what burnley are doing there waiting to see if theybcan buy players this month I agree what the Southampton manager said you can only play these games with the squad you had at the time not new players but you know that's not going to happen
Won't work, what about the ones you've sold, do they return for the games?

NWhammer
Posts: 874
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:15 am
Has liked: 26 likes
Total likes: 35 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by NWhammer » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:29 am

Why did we not do this?

Online
User avatar
sendô
Posts: 37671
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:41 pm
Location: in the pessimistically optimistic camp.
Has liked: 271 likes
Total likes: 256 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by sendô » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:30 am

S-H wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:16 am
Klipperty used the 'effects' of covid on his side being unable to beat 10 man Arsenal.

Didn't they have a number of false positives?
Yeah but they still thought they had covid. It's all psychological.

User avatar
hammer it home
Posts: 1119
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:33 am
Location: In the Sun outside M&Ms
Total likes: 1 like

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by hammer it home » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:31 am

Is it not a little counter productive, for say Burnley, who will now have 3 or 4 games in hand to play?
They are going to have to shoe horn them in somewhere...
I get the odd game, but having them stack up surely isnt ideal.

User avatar
wolf359
Posts: 20724
Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 6:22 pm
Location: 7.9 light years away
Has liked: 165 likes
Total likes: 244 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by wolf359 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:33 am

NWhammer wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:29 am
Why did we not do this?
Because we are not lying, cheating scumbags who twist and manipulate every rule to our advantage (and I like it that way.) *


*at least at the football level, our owners... well

User avatar
steps
Posts: 3905
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:18 am
Total likes: 17 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by steps » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:34 am

Tuchel said today it’s ridiculous now if teams are using covid rules to their advantage. I said in a previous post about Norwich having more injuries that covid cases which led to the postponement of our game on the 18th. That was the rumour anyway.

And Leicester have had another one postponed. As already mentioned, nothing to do with them losing Iheanacho, Ndidi, Amartey to AFCON and Daka and Vardy being injured?

BobbyMooreLower
Posts: 106
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:25 am
Has liked: 2 likes
Total likes: 11 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by BobbyMooreLower » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:37 am

steps wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:34 am
Tuchel said today it’s ridiculous now if teams are using covid rules to their advantage. I said in a previous post about Norwich having more injuries that covid cases which led to the postponement of our game on the 18th. That was the rumour anyway.

And Leicester have had another one postponed. As already mentioned, nothing to do with them losing Iheanacho, Ndidi, Amartey to AFCON and Daka and Vardy being injured?

To be fair to Leicester, Burnley called this game off, not them

User avatar
steps
Posts: 3905
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:18 am
Total likes: 17 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by steps » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am

BobbyMooreLower wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:37 am
To be fair to Leicester, Burnley called this game off, not them
Whoever called it off, it has to be sorted out by the PL now because it’s gotten out of hand.

User avatar
wolf359
Posts: 20724
Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 6:22 pm
Location: 7.9 light years away
Has liked: 165 likes
Total likes: 244 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by wolf359 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am

BobbyMooreLower wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:37 am
To be fair to Leicester, Burnley called this game off, not them
Wouldn't put it past some of these outfits to work it out between each other.

[Zoom Call]
"Well Sean we've called off a few and it will look bad if we do it again, you've got no striker and we have a 'few' injuries and blokes playing in some tin pot competition.. fancy delaying it until later?"

"[gruff Northern accent] Sounds good to me Brendan, have your teeth even got whiter?"

NWhammer
Posts: 874
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:15 am
Has liked: 26 likes
Total likes: 35 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by NWhammer » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:46 am

wolf359 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:33 am
Because we are not lying, cheating scumbags who twist and manipulate every rule to our advantage (and I like it that way.) *


*at least at the football level, our owners... well
Integrity doesn't get you points on the board.

User avatar
wolf359
Posts: 20724
Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 6:22 pm
Location: 7.9 light years away
Has liked: 165 likes
Total likes: 244 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by wolf359 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:48 am

NWhammer wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:46 am
Integrity doesn't get you points on the board.
I personally don't care. Same as diving of our players, don't give a toss if it benefits us.. don't do it.

User avatar
Bubbles Fortuna
Posts: 2278
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:25 pm
Has liked: 31 likes
Total likes: 190 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by Bubbles Fortuna » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:39 pm

NWhammer wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:46 am
Integrity doesn't get you points on the board.
But not calling off Norwich, Palace and Watford did.

User avatar
S-H
GIF Git
Posts: 32022
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:05 am
Location: Kumb Inn
Has liked: 478 likes
Total likes: 790 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by S-H » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:58 pm


Crouchend_Hammer
Posts: 19691
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:31 am
Location: Forest Gate
Has liked: 13 likes
Total likes: 157 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:50 pm

steps wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:41 am
Whoever called it off, it has to be sorted out by the PL now because it’s gotten out of hand.
The Premier League call the games off. Clubs apply, and if certain criteria are met, then the application is signed off

The PL will assess the number of players available to the team who is looking to postpone. In theory they assess all absences independently from the clubs, including COvid cases, injuries and others. How the PL assess injuries I am not sure, but they claim they need medical verification

If there are not enough 'available' players left to play then they allow the postponement. the rules on who is considered 'available' is based on a fixed criteria related to experience


When making an application, clubs must provide the Board with the following details, together with clear reasons why they believe the match should be postponed:

- Players and staff who have returned a positive COVID-19 test, their vaccination status and, if known, the source of their infections.
- Players and staff who are self-isolating.
- Players who are unavailable to play through injury or illness.
- Players listed on the club’s squad list who are still available to play in the match, including appropriately experienced Under-21 players (which includes Under-21 players who have played for the club, another Premier League or EFL club, or an overseas club in the current season. However, any Under-21 player who participates in a club’s FA Cup Round Three match and has not played in any other first-team competitions for the club this season will not be considered by the Board as appropriately experienced).
- Supporting medical information to verify the status of each unavailable player, which will be reviewed by the League’s medical advisers

Crouchend_Hammer
Posts: 19691
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:31 am
Location: Forest Gate
Has liked: 13 likes
Total likes: 157 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:54 pm

hammer it home wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:31 am
Is it not a little counter productive, for say Burnley, who will now have 3 or 4 games in hand to play?
They are going to have to shoe horn them in somewhere...
I get the odd game, but having them stack up surely isnt ideal.
Yes, which is why they are probably not 'cheating the system' but acting in good faith.
There is no logical reason for them to want to postpone the game unless they are unable to field a team

You have to bear in mind that it is the Premier League, not the clubs, who have said players with a positive Covid test cannot play. I suspect there are quite a few players at various clubs who have tested positive for Covid but could play if allowed, similar to if they have a cold

So, if Premier League are forcing clubs to make players unavailable (who are in essence fit) then i don't really blame the clubs for making the most of it if they can, within the guidelines laid down by the Premier League

Online
YorksHammer
Posts: 6220
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:03 pm
Has liked: 17 likes
Total likes: 32 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by YorksHammer » Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:33 pm

I see Arsenal are now having discussions with the Premier League about potentially calling off their match against Spurs - only Odegaard is known to be out due to Covid, they also have four players away at AFCON and Xhaka suspended due to his sending off, then subsequently have four injuries plus two knocks picked up in midweek.

User avatar
Aceface
Posts: 14332
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:01 am
Location: Blighty
Has liked: 64 likes
Total likes: 147 likes

Re: Is now a good time for the season to be suspended?

Post by Aceface » Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:09 pm

The NLD will be a litmus year for whether it’s actually Covid that is still driving these postponements. If they only have one case and it gets called off, the charade will be over.

AFCON attendees, a few muscle injuries and Xhaka being an idiot aren’t legitimate reasons to postpone a game.

Post Reply