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Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Up the Junction » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:24 pm

The term "legend" is perhaps bandied around rather too easily these days. But with only five more West Ham goals under his belt, Michail Antonio may just have a legitimate claim to the title:

https://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=136625


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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by hammers92 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:26 pm

I think it comes back round to the Noble debate.

Great player, great servant and a very popular person but he needs to win something here.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Denzil » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:28 pm

hammers92 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:26 pm
I think it comes back round to the Noble debate.

Great player, great servant and a very popular person but he needs to win something here.
Don't agree with that re Noble. Completely different to Antonio's scenario. For Michail I agree though.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by sendô » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:32 pm

To be honest that list is a bit disappointing.

Have we always struggled to get strikers?

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by fmgod » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:33 pm

He isn't a legend, we haven't won anything and he hasn't shown the constant ability associated with it but greatly respect and appreciated, then yes 100%

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by S-H » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:35 pm

f*** it, he's in the Carlton Cole - legend bracket for me.
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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Up the Junction » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:37 pm

hammers92 wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:26 pm
I think it comes back round to the Noble debate. Great player, great servant and a very popular person but he needs to win something here.
Vic Watson won nothing. Tell me he's not a legend at this club.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by hammers92 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:43 pm

Up the Junction wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:37 pm
Vic Watson won nothing. Tell me he's not a legend at this club.
Fair point.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Albie Beck » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Up the Junction wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:37 pm
Vic Watson won nothing. Tell me he's not a legend at this club.
No fair enough. His posting on here's a bit iffy though :D

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Het-Field » Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:58 pm

I think a statistic like that does put one in the range of 'legend' status. Antonio is interesting simply because I think there were spells, historically, where the majority of fans would have been agreeable to him being sold. Particularly in 2018 when we were evolving the team very quickly, and large sums of money were being spent, I think people might have felt after 17/18 we could have continued on without him. Pelly did rejuvenate him, and he has been integral to our goalscoring and attacking ever since.

Noble is a legend. I dont think you have to win something in order to be a legend, otherwise you might have a situation where the likes of Scaloni would ostensibly have a greater claim had to the title than many others, had Gerrard not equalised in the final fifteen years ago. Noble is a local, who captained the club, stayed through financial meltdown, relegation, unrest between the fans and the boardroom and seen numerous managers and players come and go, with some highs, and many lows. Noble, by virtue of his longevity, connection to the club, and captaincy will make him a legend. Antonio's goalscoring exploits, especially if he gets his way into the top ten, will also join the ranks.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by szola » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:11 pm

He has been one of our most discussed player in the last ten years.
We'll always remember him.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Cockneyboy311 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:11 pm

He probably should be there already but for the amount of games he has missed through injury.

I've no doubt he'll get those 6 goals soon enough. Hopefully all this season.
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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by funky chicken » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:13 pm

Yes, he’s a club legend for me.

- A HOTY winner;
- Our highest ever Premier League scorer;
- Part of the squad that claimed our highest ever points total in the Premier League;
- Part of a squad that won the most amount of games in a Premier League season;
- Part of a squad that won the most amount of away matches in a Premier League season;
- Scored our penultimate goal at the Boleyn Ground;
- Scored our first ever League goal at the London Stadium;
- Oh, and scored the first ever winning goal at the new Sh*te Hart Lane.

A resounding yes! :newthumb:

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by TommyHammer » Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:16 pm

Legends for me are your Billy Bonds, Bobby Moores and Trevor Brookings of this world. Does Michail belong in that category? No from me. He's more a cult hero than legend imo.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Billy Hunt » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:30 pm

TommyHammer wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:16 pm
Legends for me are your Billy Bonds, Bobby Moores and Trevor Brookings of this world. Does Michail belong in that category? No from me. He's more a cult hero than legend imo.
Agree, my bar for a "legend" is a fair bit higher too

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Danny's Dyer Acting » Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:38 pm

2. COUNTABLE NOUN
If you refer to someone as a legend, you mean that they are very famous and admired by a lot of people.
From Collins dictionary.

Yes.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by 'stone hammer » Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:28 pm

Cult hero would be more apt. Great though his goal tally is, the fact that he's our PL top scorer says more about our strikers over the last 20 years.

Being our PL top scorer isn't automatically legendary status for me.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Georgee Paris » Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:33 pm

He’s definitely benefitted from being our only option. Talk of only Salah being the only player with better recent figures kinda ignores the fact he is the only one at our club playing that role. Fairly certain had we been set up with a system that suited Haller he’d have equally legendary scoring figures too.
But I do love him and his celebrations especially against Tottenham and hope he goes on to score loads more. But I wouldn’t hesitate in looking for someone else to play up front right now.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by Shabu » Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:42 pm

He's a West Ham legend from the Premier League era.

Maybe not all time which has a different criteria.

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Re: Michail Antonio: club legend?

Post by GetUrWangOut » Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:07 pm

Not quite yet for me - but if he continues as he is and stays until the end of his new deal he will be in my eyes.

The definition of legend which only allows for Bonds, Brooking and Moore as our legends is too restrictive IMO and means that we’ll likely never see another legend again.

Noble is already a legend in my eyes and if they stay for a few more years Rice and Mickey will join him.

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