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Re: England cricket 2022

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Bend it like Repka wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:30 pm But that then shuts the door on Mahmood for example until one of the oldies retires.

If they both decide to stop at the same time we will be buggered.
I get that but we need to start picking our best team again and creating a winning culture.

For 3 to 4 years we’ve been planning for the future without them and it simply had created confusion, negativity and created an acceptable losing culture with an eye on a future that hasn't come.

Lets start winning again before we worry about how to cope without 2 of our most experienced players?
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BabyClaret wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:37 pm I don't get the Robinson hype. My main hope would be to get Archer back fighting fit, with hopefully a captain who doesn't overbowl him. I also think our lack of quality spinner (we do need to give Parkinson a chance) means we can afford to start blooding Stone/Mahmood in teams with Broad and Anderson.
He simply takes wickets at a healthy average. 39 wickets at 21 in 9 games is really quite impressive during a shocking year for English test cricket.

Is Parkinson better than Leach? Until his stats start backing it up its hard to tell but he'll need to start dominating the county scene first. It’s doable for good spinners...just look at Harmer.
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Noone will ever have the chance to step up whilst Anderson and Broad are hogging two of the three quickie spots in the team.

England need a complete reset IMO.
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sendô wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 3:00 pm Noone will ever have the chance to step up whilst Anderson and Broad are hogging two of the three quickie spots in the team.

England need a complete reset IMO.
If someone can oust them and do better than them then great...

But while they're still the best in the country then it's irrelevant.

We need to start winning and picking our best players is the way to do that
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If Wood and Archer were fully fit and Robinson didn't blow out of his arse after 2 spells then I'd be inclined to agree.

But Broad and Anderson are still the best options at the moment and it's the batting that's the real issue.
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smuts wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:34 am If Wood and Archer were fully fit and Robinson didn't blow out of his arse after 2 spells then I'd be inclined to agree.

But Broad and Anderson are still the best options at the moment and it's the batting that's the real issue.
Completely agree

...and with the batting we almost need to take a bit of a short term view too.
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Sounds like Ben Stokes is in decent form, then!
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Graham Thorpe seriously ill in hospital.
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smuts wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:28 pm Graham Thorpe seriously ill in hospital.


Hope he gets well was a classy Batsman in his day
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Got tickets for two England games at the 20/20 World Cup this year in Australia . 4 games in total

Going to Melbourne for 5 days
Games I’ve got are

England v Australia
England v Group B Runner Up
New Zealand v Afghanistan
Afghanistan v Group B Runner Up

Looking at the pre qualifying group I think the Group B runner up is likely to be Scotland but in the group is West Indies who can have shock defeats but you’d expect them to win the group
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61420661

Bold choice. Apparently a very inspiring coach.
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smuts wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 4:35 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61420661

Bold choice. Apparently a very inspiring coach.
Interesting choice

Not much experience coaching wise but he’ll of a player a swashbuckling batsman who led New Zealand superbly punching above their weight consistently

Hope he does well but England is the equivalent to Man Utd at the moment needs a massive overhaul wiry fresh thinking & mindset
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smuts wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 4:35 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61420661

Bold choice. Apparently a very inspiring coach.
Bold is right. As Key said, 'Time for us all to buckle up and get ready for the ride.'
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SoulCircus wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:06 am Bold is right. As Key said, 'Time for us all to buckle up and get ready for the ride.'
Key has always been critical on the role of coaches at this level... a coach who can come in and give players the right mental resources to maximise their ability by feeling they belong rather than a focus on technique is potentially more important.

In that context, he's probably a good choice. A risky but good choice...
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Does anyone know the latest with Jofra? With a couple of weeks to go to the first test match at Lord's, I was rather hoping to witness the guy live!
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Need some help fellas,got tickets for day 4 at Lords v the Kiwis but tickets sitting in my profile and can't download/print do anything with them,see a scanning date which is blank does that mean they wait till a certain date to download or do I need to contact them
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Crawley still picked despite terrible start to the season

Pope at 3 despite never playing there before in first class cricket

Brook included but Bairstow expected to bat at 3

Stokes has got to be a damn good captain because there is little more for him to work with on the batting side in the squad compared to what Root had.

Lots of risks and hoping people will come good rather than going with any type of form players to try to get some important wins.
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Looks like the same old for the batting and then there'll be bemused faces in the coaching team when we're 60 for 4 again.

Amazing that the two oldest bowlers are practically the only ones fit. Robinson has had food poisoning.
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Yup, we are going to go back through the same aren't we?

Crawley looking good for 1 innings, then getting a couple of ducks

Bairstow has done enough to earn himself a spell in the side, but I'm still not convinced he's consistently test quality.

Pope is the Golden Child. They just want to pick him despite looking all at sea in both India and Oz.
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Can't believe they have overlooked Parkinson again for Leach, I don't mind Leach but he had the entire winter series to bowl England to victory in the West Indies and failed, he is a second choice spinner.

Parkinson has been the second leading wicket taker in the county championship, his economy rate is very good for a leg spinner but they still go for Leach.

I don't get it England genuinely hate leg spinners and always have, despite the fact the majority of the best spin bowlers of all time have been leg spinners. England still hold up John Emburey as a great spin bowler and he averaged nearly 40 in test cricket.

I'm very disappointed he has missed out again they won't pick him until they go to India where they will belt him because they are the best players of spin and he will be deemed not good enough despite giving Leach chance after chance.
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