Cool, and Bowen to the bench then, yeah?
Brentford 2-0 West Ham Utd (10/4/22)
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The best form of Antonio's career has been as a striker.
He is a striker now, and a bloody good one.
We need another for sure.
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Re: ⚽ Brentford V West Ham United: match thread
I find it a shame people think this season has been “average” - not in my lifetime as a WHU supporter it hasn’t. It’s been on the side of greatAl Fisti wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:31 am It´s very disappointing that we destroy everything, that we have build up in 2021 this season, but this is our own fault! We get the receipt for being inactive in the transfer period, for planning a season just with one forward and as well for the obstinacy of our manager who doesn´t trust other squad players like Yarmolenko or Vlasic, even if Antonio obviously needs an urgent rest......and as long we play with the worst and slowest left defender of the league, we will be just average.
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Of course it has, it's been brilliant for the most part. But would you not feel a bit gutted if we end up with no European qualification at all after the great start?
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Imagine if this season was average.
I'd definitely have more hair, and drink less, if it was.
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Re: ⚽ Brentford V West Ham United: match thread
Yes I agreekitthehammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:02 am As much as i agree, there is also a problem that moyes could have picked or brought on several other players yesterday but didn't, bar vlasic and benrahma. He could have picked these two from the start and yarmolenko or noble or kral or several others. It would have given brentford something else to think about and saved legs for thursday. So in other words, whats the point in getting in players if the manager will never pick them?
No manager can expect to have his ideal line up available every game or exact the same quality in reserve to slot in
You have to find a way to use the squad, whatever their limitations
As I said, these players are not non league players but experienced internationals
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Right. We also lost Declan Rice to injury and only had Mark Noble to replace him. Moyes even said that injury cost us the two points we missed out on the champions league by.DusseldorfHammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:59 am We maede 32 points in the first half of 20/21 and 33 in the second half of last season. We got better during last campaign.
We all knew we needed a centre mid in the summer and January windows of that season.
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Thinking about the game again this morning... we just didn't have any movement up front. Coufal passing backwards all the time, Antonio dithering before their second, Benrahma running across the pitch before he found a pass.
Benny has his critics but I think he ran more than most for us yesterday.
Benny has his critics but I think he ran more than most for us yesterday.
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Yep, the obsession with signings. Modern PL-fans philosophy.il_martello_di_genovesi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 am We also signed someone in January who made a big impact.
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Yes, pointing out that Lingard made a big impact is being signing obsessed :lol:.DusseldorfHammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:41 am Yep, the obsession with signings. Modern PL-fans philosophy.
You mentioned the fact our 2nd half of the season was better, if you want to ignore that Lingard made a difference, that’s up to you.
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No Antonio, but if Bowen plays like he did yesterday at least we’d have someone to come in for him.
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The reason why that is, is because every time we’re on the cusp of something good we don’t capitalise, our best players eventually get poached and we end up either in mid table, season over by February, or fighting it out to stay in the league. Took us Declan Rice coming through the academy for us to have this opportunity.
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I'd stay quiet if I was him. A fairly soft volley going in at his near post.
Another goal where he's not made a mistake but you have to ask could he have done better?
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The weirdest past was someone claiming last season is one where we faltered after January which is just not true :lol:il_martello_di_genovesi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:45 am Yes, pointing out that Lingard made a big impact is being signing obsessed :lol:.
You mentioned the fact our 2nd half of the season was better, if you want to ignore that Lingard made a difference, that’s up to you.
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You could say that about the brentford match. Man u and Arsenal lost. Did we capitalise? no.NWhammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:53 am The reason why that is, is because every time we’re on the cusp of something good we don’t capitalise, our best players eventually get poached and we end up either in mid table, season over by February, or fighting it out to stay in the league. Took us Declan Rice coming through the academy for us to have this opportunity.
So we're down to 7th if those around us win their games in hand and champions league qualification via the league is very doubtful considering our league form.
We've got four more matches in Europe before we win a final and champions league qualification.
If we go out on thursday then really we are battling for another Europa League slot next season with knackered players, iffy league form and even if we do get that (7th is europa conference, sixth europa league), will that be enough for the likes of Rice and bowen to stay?
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It's April and we're 6th and still in the Europa League.NWhammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:53 am The reason why that is, is because every time we’re on the cusp of something good we don’t capitalise, our best players eventually get poached and we end up either in mid table, season over by February, or fighting it out to stay in the league. Took us Declan Rice coming through the academy for us to have this opportunity.
We lost a game. We'll still qualify for Europe. Rice might still leave, though I doubt it.
This season is so far from average, and the fact that a bad performance after 90 minutes in a European QUARTER FINAL!!! Is apparently our season falling apart and Antonio being a useless, arrogant, doesn't care about West Ham dud is insanity.
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I don't ignore the impact Lingard did make. Not in the slightest.il_martello_di_genovesi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:45 am Yes, pointing out that Lingard made a big impact is being signing obsessed :lol:.
You mentioned the fact our 2nd half of the season was better, if you want to ignore that Lingard made a difference, that’s up to you.
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Teams like us are rarely perfect in terms of depth in quality.NWhammer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:40 am Right. We also lost Declan Rice to injury and only had Mark Noble to replace him. Moyes even said that injury cost us the two points we missed out on the champions league by.
We all knew we needed a centre mid in the summer and January windows of that season.
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Totally correct. This thing that because he once played as a wide attacking player, or a wing back that he isn't a "proper striker" is just baffling. Sir Geoff Hurst played left half (left midfield), should we have bought a player to play up front with Budgie and moved Geoff back to left half? Bobby Moore was a left half also, should we have bought another centre half to play alongside Ken Brown and moved Bob back into the midfield?Bubbles Fortuna wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:34 am The best form of Antonio's career has been as a striker.
He is a striker now, and a bloody good one.
We need another for sure.
Of course not, both were better at their new roles than their old ones, and so is Antonio, expect some cannot, or more probably will not see that and keep trotting out utter bilge about "not a real striker".
We could do with another player experienced player in that role as an understudy.