Hammer Matty wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 pm
Having read a bit into it, I don’t see how Everton aren’t bang to rights? Maybe Leeds and Burnley have a case?
They are bang to rights. But, seriously, this is England and the year is 2022. Do you honestly believe the authorities will have the cojones to actually do something about it ? Or for that matter take actions against those clubs where players and managers were attacked by fans who invaded various pitches recently ?
I guess that, like me, you aren't holding your breath.
Leeds and Burnley are unhappy for obvious reasons but it shouldn't be a case of legal action. The FFP rules are in place and any club breaking them should be punished. We don't need a big song and dance.
Seems pretty clear cut they’ve contravened the rules, and by some margin, yet I’d be stunned if anything happened to Everton. The reason faith in institutions is at record lows is because institutions continually fail to provide a reason to have faith in them.
jastons wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 8:40 pm
Leeds and Burnley are unhappy for obvious reasons but it shouldn't be a case of legal action. The FFP rules are in place and any club breaking them should be punished. We don't need a big song and dance.
Put it this was if Burnley and Everton were swapped in position and finances then Burnley would be penalised without question (if not already).
SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:00 pm
Are the punishments for breaking this rule set out anywhere or is it another of those make it up if we have to, depending on the club, things?
Put it this way they won’t be going after Newcastle when they Saudis by the naming rights to the training ground kettle for £1 Billion.
Everton signed a number of extra players in January alone. Most haven’t played but Mykolenko has been regular for the end to the season. Not that there could be any precedent for estimating one player’s worth in a relegation battle…
wolf359 wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:02 pm
Put it this way they won’t be going after Newcastle when they Saudis by the naming rights to the training ground kettle for £1 Billion.
No. Man City do the same. I don't think Everton have though.
I don’t understand how their reported losses less the ‘forgivable’ COVID related loss of £170m actually gets them under the threshold.
I’m even more confused how they work out that their COVID loss was £170m. That’s more than three times what other clubs of their size have suggested…..unless they’re suggesting it was due to COVID cost them champions league.
Kermit wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 8:38 pm
They are bang to rights. But, seriously, this is England and the year is 2022. Do you honestly believe the authorities will have the cojones to actually do something about it ? Or for that matter take actions against those clubs where players and managers were attacked by fans who invaded various pitches recently ?
I guess that, like me, you aren't holding your breath.
Well they ****ing well did to us!
And they had no right too in the end, either. No thanks to a doddery old Judgey ****.
If its good enough to heavily fine us, then it's good enough for other Clubs too.
That's the trouble when you set a precedent, it'll always come back to haunt you - i.e. The Premier League/FA.
Cuenca 'ammer wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 9:44 pm
worst outcome for them - they get told they've been naughty boys and don't let it happen again. and a suspended fine.
haven't City AND PSG been "convicted" twice for similar offences ?
That's all UEFA, 'Oust - the Everton "breach" is a different set of FFP regs... Premier League. They are probably mutually contradictory too :lol: . They're all 'kin useless.
I don't really know anything about Everton's blatant breaking of the rules. But what I do know is that they will spend the required amount of money on legal help that will see them OK.
But post 2007 I was absolutely astonished at how our club allowed itself to be crucified in the media and battered up in about 4 different courts of law until we were defeated with no possible appeal. Shame on whoever oversaw that. The club allowed itself to be smashed up financially and socially. The narrative was never challenged. And it stuck.
Even to this very day our own fans refer to 'the Tevez goal that kept us up'. A point would have done us. The victory was nice but not crucial.
Doc H Ball wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 11:05 pm
People seem to forget that it was found that our CEO had misled the court and that we opened our own trap door.
We even agreed to have it litigated voluntarily!
Didn't he blame it on a secretary or something in the end that she hadn't read the paperwork correctly ?
Wasn't it because if he admitted he had misled the court he was done for in a professional capacity ?
Kia Joorabchian bided his time and then told Sheff United's lot that we had lied to the tribunal that was set up in the weeks before the end of the Great Escape season.