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EvilC wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:32 pmAnd as a viewer, I have paid Sky, and watched some of the various grand prix, and watched Newcastle play football, so I am, in my own small way, complicit here.
As are each and every one of those deeply moralistic journalists who'll get paid for writing and/or talking about it.

Newcastle though, nah - f*** them... :winker:
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re your point above.. Boss.

how many journos will refuse to go to Qatar to cover the WC because it offends their moral sensibilities...

not many I would hazard a guess.

in fact, I'd say actually NONE.
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Bang on, C. Meanwhile, somewhere in the US of A...


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Just watched a piece on Sky Sports News from some guy who's an analyst on the Golf channel. Laid into the players who've joined the LIV tour big time. Raised some very valid points, as in the majority are nowhere near the top of the golf rankings so they are hardly the best players in the world. Said about 14 of the players who would be most recognisable have an average ranking of over 100. Also said the average age of the affomentioned 14 was 40. Whereas the the top players on the PGA have an average age of 27. Was a great listen.
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neathiron wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:26 pm Just watched a piece on Sky Sports News from some guy who's an analyst on the Golf channel. Laid into the players who've joined the LIV tour big time. Raised some very valid points, as in the majority are nowhere near the top of the golf rankings so they are hardly the best players in the world. Said about 14 of the players who would be most recognisable have an average ranking of over 100. Also said the average age of the affomentioned 14 was 40. Whereas the the top players on the PGA have an average age of 27. Was a great listen.
So when Bryson, Fowler and reed join the next event another 3 top names

Won't be long now.. more will follow
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neathiron wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:26 pm Raised some very valid points, as in the majority are nowhere near the top of the golf rankings so they are hardly the best players in the world. was 40.
Why does that matter?
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Raised some very valid points, as in the majority are nowhere near the top of the golf rankings so they are hardly the best players in the world. Said about 14 of the players who would be most recognisable have an average ranking of over 100.

He makes it sound as if they'd have difficulty winning a monthly medal. They're among the best golfers in the world.
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mumbles87 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:47 pm So when Bryson, Fowler and reed join the next event another 3 top names

Won't be long now.. more will follow
But they're hardly challenging the top of leaderboards at the moment, obviously Bryson has been struggling with injury, and Fowler and Reed have slipped down the rankings. As far as I can see it's only Johnson from the top 20 who has jumped ship. Be interesting to see if the likes of Scheffler, Smith, Cantlay etc decide to follow.
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fjthegrey wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:04 pm Why does that matter?
He was making the point quite a few players are in the twilight of their careers, but the top ranking golfers are of a younger generation these days.
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:20 pm Raised some very valid points, as in the majority are nowhere near the top of the golf rankings so they are hardly the best players in the world. Said about 14 of the players who would be most recognisable have an average ranking of over 100.

He makes it sound as if they'd have difficulty winning a monthly medal. They're among the best golfers in the world.
Not disputing that JBB. Mickelson is still one of my favourite players ever, and it's only a matter of time before Dustin gets back to his best.
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I reckon more will join if another series is done.

You always get your early adopters, DJ excluded they are likely to be those who have less chance of winning on the PGA tour and at the latter end of their careers.

Next you'll get a few younger players who are prospects but don't fancy their chances of winning events so will move over.

Then once it all normalises a bit and some of the media hysteria dies off you'll get the big boys.

Just to make it on tour you are in the top 200 odd or whatever in the world. It's hard to compare golf to other sports (even individual sports like tennis), but odds are the 100th best footballer is in the first 11 for a champions league quarter finalist team, so definitely not some shank smuck who can barely hit a ball.
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Some interesting perspectives on the moral situation etc, not just in the golf. I pay for Now tv too.

I honestly don't know what to think. Don't we sell arms to the Saudis?

What's the point in me moaning about Newcastle. Are murderers better than pornographers? Is it OK to make a stand for some people's rights and not others.

Money is the root of all evil I was once told....
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bonzosbeard wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:11 pm ..........

Money is the root of all evil I was once told....
[QI klaxon]

The love of money is the root of all evil

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bonzosbeard wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:11 pm Are murderers better than pornographers?
Now that's a golf team event that i think will be crossing the line.
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chelmsfordhammer91 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:05 pm Now that's a golf team event that i think will be crossing the line.
Think the pornographers would win, plenty of Birdies on show! Too many shots for the murderers! :winker:
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chelmsfordhammer91 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:05 pm Now that's a golf team event that i think will be crossing the line.
In the hole you say :rofl:
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This is only up the road from me and was able to get a load of free tickets for today so atleast I will not be putting money in their pocket (till i find the bar). Lovely weather for it.
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Away from the ethical and moral issues I find a shotgun start stupid. Can you imagine starting on the 18th at Carnoustie for instance? Or the Road Hole at St Andrews? Daft.
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I watched some of it yesterday. That scoring graphic they use is virtually impossible to read. It's like the spinning wheels in a one armed bandit, constantly whizzing around to no real purpose. They need to improve the sound too. The levels are all over the place and the sound and pictures don't always match. Both 'beginner' errors and not difficult to get right.
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SoulCircus wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:14 am Away from the ethical and moral issues I find a shotgun start stupid. Can you imagine starting on the 18th at Carnoustie for instance? Or the Road Hole at St Andrews? Daft.
I disagree it's better for the viewer

Compare to PGA tour

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