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Are Italy going Qatar?

As a fan?
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We could play both players
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lincolnhammer1963 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:52 pm I'm sure Scammaca has ambitions of being the main man for Italy in Qatar.
Italy didn't qualify for the World Cup.
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:)
Romfordboy wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:38 pm Are Italy going Qatar?

As a fan?
I'll pretend I didn't mention italy going to qatar
Thank you for putting me in my place.


Italy must be rubbish not qualifying again for the world cup.
Mind you they had Scammaca up front
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People's disrespect of Michail Antonio is pretty Spursy. Ask most Premier League centre halves who they hate playing against & I reckon a lot of them would rate Antonio in their top 3 toughest opponents.

I can't see why the two of them couldn't play together to be honest
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Denbighammer wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:48 pm People's disrespect of Michail Antonio is pretty Spursy. Ask most Premier League centre halves who they hate playing against & I reckon a lot of them would rate Antonio in their top 3 toughest opponents.

I can't see why the two of them couldn't play together to be honest
The only reason the two of them aren’t playing together is the 4-4-2 falling out of fashion. I really think they could be a good strike partnership when we’re chasing games. Obviously we all look at Scamacca’s height and heading ability, but imagine how many goals he could score with his shooting (which is really good) with Antonio’s work making space for his shots…
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Denbighammer wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:48 pm People's disrespect of Michail Antonio is pretty Spursy. Ask most Premier League centre halves who they hate playing against & I reckon a lot of them would rate Antonio in their top 3 toughest opponents.

I can't see why the two of them couldn't play together to be honest
As Moyes has pointed out to much derision on social media, you can only really play a front two with a back three.

No one in the Premier League plays to up front with a back four, it just leaves you might in midfield.

I think we could play well in a 3412, but the central midfield and Wingbacks would need some work.
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We don’t need to play a front 2 as such the way we played against silkeborg but with Antonio instead of cornet would be perfect.

It would mean dropping fornals and Bowen which means it’s very very unlikely
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I still we think we could get a good 60 mins out of Antonio on the wing. Unlikely to be worse than what some of our wingers have served up this season
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Bubbles Fortuna wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:31 pm As Moyes has pointed out to much derision on social media, you can only really play a front two with a back three.

No one in the Premier League plays to up front with a back four, it just leaves you might in midfield.

I think we could play well in a 3412, but the central midfield and Wingbacks would need some work.
What should be derided more is Moyes mentioning 'back 3'. We have never played a 'back 3' under Moyes and never will.
We have, however, played a back five with two DMs in front of it many times - with not much success.
Ironically our best performances in a back 5 came with Masuaku at lwb but he became the fall guy for other players who are much less suited at playing WB.
We moved on our only serviceable wing back
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Crouchend_Hammer wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:50 pm Masuaku...
Get well soon Crouchie :winker:
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Crouchend_Hammer wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:50 pm What should be derided more is Moyes mentioning 'back 3'. We have never played a 'back 3' under Moyes and never will.
We have, however, played a back five with two DMs in front of it many times - with not much success.
Ironically our best performances in a back 5 came with Masuaku at lwb but he became the fall guy for other players who are much less suited at playing WB.
We moved on our only serviceable wing back
I don't know why he'd be derided for saying "you can only play 2 up front in this league with a back 3", because he's right.

It's pretty clear from the heat maps that it's a back three with the Wingbacks playing in line with our two midfielders.

Honestly that's too defensive for my liking, they should be higher up the pitch and we certainly don't need three CBs AND Rice with Soucek.
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Moyes won't even play Antonio & Scamacca together for 10 minutes. What's the worst that could happen? 10 minutes probably isn't long enough to form a partnership but when we are 1 nil down then it isn't that much of a risk to bring on an extra striker.
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jastons wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:53 am Moyes won't even play Antonio & Scamacca together for 10 minutes. What's the worst that could happen? 10 minutes probably isn't long enough to form a partnership but when we are 1 nil down then it isn't that much of a risk to bring on an extra striker.
It would make it more difficult for Moyes to play his preferred, 7 at the back formation.
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SullySpecial wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:35 am It would make it more difficult for Moyes to play his preferred, 7 at the back formation.
And there lies the reason we struggle to score from open play….. Moyes talks about a 3 at the back system and I suspect dreams of Kehrer Zouma and Aguerd as his trio, but if you simply add two defensive full backs to two defensive midfielders it’s 7 defenders and we inevitably add Fornals to the mix so ending with Bowen isolated on the right wing and Antonio wrestling oppo centre backs 40 yards away from his team mates.
You cant be effective with a 3 unless you have proper wing backs, so if Moyes wants that system he should have bought a couple this summer.
With the squad we have it’s 433, four defenders ideally with passing ability, three in midfield who can run, pass and tackle one of whom does a holding role, and 3 forwards who have some pace and spend the majority of their time in the oppo half.
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Watching Italy v England. Italy are horrible, but Scamacca has been excellent at holding up the ball and laying it off to another runner.
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I fancy Mike Bassett coming in and saying 'we're playing four, four ****ing two"', and wetting our pants with Scamacca and Antonio starting up front.

I loved the old days, Cottee and McAvennie.
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blahblahblah wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:28 pm Watching Italy v England. Italy are horrible, but Scamacca has been excellent at holding up the ball and laying it off to another runner.
I want him to smash in a hattrick.
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No way should he be on the bench for us.
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How is this bloke not starting for us.

If he isn’t given a run of games as a starter Moyes needs his head testing.
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