👋 Farewell, Gianluca Scamacca

[Korea Hammer]

I like him, and I haven't given up on him. As with Paqueta, time and patience are needed.

[S-H]

Moved to the Newman thread

[Vic_Watson]

I feel really sorry for him, he started the season pretty well and was looking a real handful, but gradually week by week the tactics are shackling him to the point he is disinterested.

Put Lewandowski in our team and he'd look s h i t.

[1895Hammer]

If Cornet proves he has an end product then he could replace any player that currently doesn't.

At the moment that's all of them.

On current form it’s Bowen.

[Burnley Hammer]

On current form it’s Bowen.

It definitely includes Bowen... it includes all of them, even the ones that we are perceiving as playing well. There's a serious deficit of end product across the team collectively. Any player that suddenly manages to add that end product to his game is an automatic starter. If that's Cornet then he's in the team.

[Burnley Hammer]

Put Lewandowski in our team and he'd look s h i t.

The polish statue.

[master]

Do we actually coach him to draw in a defender, force the challenge and get the foul? He always seems to be trying to protect the ball, get past his man and get the shot or pass off, which is obviously good, but are we coaching him to do the things that are necessary when he can't do that (which he won't every single time). Just don't seem to see any evidence of it. Just seems like more individual attacking play. Maybe we need a specialist attacking coach to help out.

[Exiledin cardiff]

I feel sorry for him, I don't know what he was told and promised to lure him here. Rather than us being sold a pup, It's the other way round likewise for Pacqueta.

Strikers are only as good as the service they get I don't see Scamacca getting anything like decent service. I we are going to play wide men with a view to getting crosses into the box, it doesn't help when Bowen and Benrahma turn inside and try to dribble across the pitch.

[Burnley Hammer]

Personally I feel that Scamacca would work best in a system like this rather than being a lone target man. Watching him play, it seems as though this is what he's geared up to do well.


-----------------------fabianski


Coufal---------Zouma--------Aguerd---------Cresswell

-------------------------Downes

-------------Paqueta----------------Rice

-------------------------Scamacca

--------------Bowen------------------Antonio

The other little bonuses to this system are having Bowen doing what he comfortably does best, having a proper central defensive midfielder covering the centre of the pitch, and not lying about where Rice plays - it easily falls back into a flat 4-3-3 when we don't have the ball.

[mumbles87]

Personally I feel that Scamacca would work best in a system like this rather than being a lone target man. Watching him play, it seems as though this is what he's geared up to do well.


-----------------------fabianski


Coufal---------Zouma--------Aguerd---------Cresswell

-------------------------Downes

-------------Paqueta----------------Rice

-------------------------Scamacca

--------------Bowen------------------Antonio

The other little bonuses to this system are having Bowen doing what he comfortably does best, having a proper central defensive midfielder covering the centre of the pitch, and not lying about where Rice plays - it easily falls back into a flat 4-3-3 when we don't have the ball.

personally I think you can tweak that even further.. especially when it comes to playing from the back

--------------------Areola

Kehrer-------Zouma----Aguerd----Cresswell

----------------------Rice

-----------Paqueta--------Fornals

-----Bowen-------Scamacca----Benny

Now that would be some serious football.

[Puff Daddy]

Personally I feel that Scamacca would work best in a system like this rather than being a lone target man. Watching him play, it seems as though this is what he's geared up to do well.


-----------------------fabianski


Coufal---------Zouma--------Aguerd---------Cresswell

-------------------------Downes

-------------Paqueta----------------Rice

-------------------------Scamacca

--------------Bowen------------------Antonio

The other little bonuses to this system are having Bowen doing what he comfortably does best, having a proper central defensive midfielder covering the centre of the pitch, and not lying about where Rice plays - it easily falls back into a flat 4-3-3 when we don't have the ball.

Good point that. I do see a bit of the Joelinton in him

[hammerman11]

-----------------------fabianski


Coufal---------Zouma--------Aguerd---------Cresswell

-------------------------Downes

-------------Paqueta----------------Rice

-------------------------Scamacca

--------------Bowen------------------Antonio

like the formation BUT both fullbacks are the issue here and also do we play a high line or low one to accommodate their lack of pace ?
why did we buy emerson as he has been useless and 15m wasted. kehrer could play a high line but makes so many mistakes that I can see why he was only 10m ! new fullbacks please and we may have a team !
I guess when antonio is done then cornet replaces him. benrahma for bowen ?
agree that scamacca deeper would be better. now just convince moyes !

[-DL-]

We’re not accommodating him whatsoever, and imo, it’s becoming more and more obvious that the manager didn’t want him. Which opens up a whole new debate about why we did it.

I've looked for the interview but cannot find it - but when Scamacca joined, Moyes said he tried for Scamacca in the previous January window, and he wasn't available - so maybe that can put the 'Moyes didn't want him' to bed.

[hammers92]

I've looked for the interview but cannot find it - but when Scamacca joined, Moyes said he tried for Scamacca in the previous January window, and he wasn't available - so maybe that can put the 'Moyes didn't want him' to bed.

If that’s what he said then fair enough. I think it then comes down to tactics and how we set up around him.

Happy to have that debate but the usual suspects will come wading in making it a Moyes thread 2.0!

[hammerman11]

4312 with scamacca behind a front two from antonio bowen benrahma cornet may work and get him involved but leaves us exposed if we also play paqueta in the 3 next to rice and downes. mind you we are ripped open now with moyes defensive plan shredded most weeks so might as well go on the attack and lay a glove on teams !

[Burnley Hammer]

4312 with scamacca behind a front two from antonio bowen benrahma cornet may work and get him involved but leaves us exposed if we also play paqueta in the 3 next to rice and downes. mind you we are ripped open now with moyes defensive plan shredded most weeks so might as well go on the attack and lay a glove on teams !

Not really - all those three are perfectly capable of playing in a deeper role doing dirty work. The issue we have at the moment is that they're either vacating that position (whether that's by instruction, I don't know) or they're being dragged out too wide leaving a big gaping hole in the middle of the pitch. I personally think we need someone centrally - someone who stays there. A three would work like that but the shape needs to be there. We need to be more disciplined. If you're leaking goals for fun, it's not because of your number 10. It's because your middle 3 and back 4 aren't good enough (or maybe disciplined enough).

[MB]

I like him, and I haven't given up on him. As with Paqueta, time and patience are needed.

Think this is right. There are tactical problems, but I do think we underestimate how hard it is to adapt to English football. Haaland and Nunez are the only "new" players in the top 20 of the goal scoring charts. Everyone else has played in the Premier League before. Nunez was being written off as a flop on here about three weeks ago!

Same when you look at assists. Haaland again and Perisic the only two.

Which perhaps goes to a point Bubbs has made once or twice ( :lol: ) about how good an idea it was to do so much of our business aboard. I guess the counter argument was we had to given the amount of players we needed, but it does leave us where we are now with players needing to adapt.

[Garry]

There now saying scamacca as left the Italy squad as he as a injury and will use the break as getting fit.

[ageing hammer]

There now saying scamacca as left the Italy squad as he as a injury and will use the break as getting fit.

They didn't qualify for the world cup

[Cockneyboy311]

They didn't qualify for the world cup

Indeed haha.