The Strikes Thread
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Seems Transport for Wales and the RMT have come to a deal for workers in Wales. 4.5% guaranteed, up to 6.6% with productivity elements (assume that's based on the company rolling stuff out and the workers hitting targets). Voted through by members at almost 8 to 1.
Shapps has a very clear number now that's acceptable to both RMT negotiators and members. No reason for this to drag on any longer.
Unless they think it's useful politically I guess.
Shapps has a very clear number now that's acceptable to both RMT negotiators and members. No reason for this to drag on any longer.
Unless they think it's useful politically I guess.
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I can’t get to Hereford this weekend and now I can’t make Coventry in December on the understanding these strikes go ahead.
When will this end?!
When will this end?!
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Also, aren't you back in Manchester? Trains seem to be fine this weekend between there and Hereford.
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When the government stop trying to exploit the situation for political gain.btajim - mcfc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:19 pm I can’t get to Hereford this weekend and now I can’t make Coventry in December on the understanding these strikes go ahead.
When will this end?!
Also, aren't you back in Manchester? Trains seem to be fine this weekend between there and Hereford.
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Megabus with a few tinnies for the journey.btajim - mcfc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:19 pm I can’t get to Hereford this weekend and now I can’t make Coventry in December on the understanding these strikes go ahead.
When will this end?!
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ask the gov. its really that simple.btajim - mcfc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:19 pm I can’t get to Hereford this weekend and now I can’t make Coventry in December on the understanding these strikes go ahead.
When will this end?!
last times strikes were cancelled due to talks being agreed
talks have now been cancelled by network rail .. what do you expect? the unions to go oh thats fine we will just sit here on our hands whilst you do what you want
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Probably being dim but what's the blindingly obvious common denominator? Inflation?
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You don't see inflation trying to cut pensions and job termsSammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:24 am Probably being dim but what's the blindingly obvious common denominator? Inflation?
Mick lynch explains the situation well on the news
Over the weekend just gone network rail contacted him and said 2pm Tuesday (think was Tuesday) meet in my office for x deal to be presented
1pm Tuesday he called lynch again to say I can't offer you that deal it's been blocked
The only people that can block it are the government
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Strikes this Saturday completely screwed up a long planned get together with mates and had to return tickets for the Eng v SA game at Twickenham.
Newly announced strikes will also probably nacker something else up as its on an 'in between' day
But 100% still support them striking
Newly announced strikes will also probably nacker something else up as its on an 'in between' day
But 100% still support them striking
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Whilst we see this corrupt government waste public money on PPE contracts and such for friends whilst underfunding public services and screwing over workers strikes will still happenLoftyhammer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:42 am Strikes this Saturday completely screwed up a long planned get together with mates and had to return tickets for the Eng v SA game at Twickenham.
Newly announced strikes will also probably nacker something else up as its on an 'in between' day
But 100% still support them striking
I can't believe people support the Tory party still after 12 years of corruption
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The govt don't do pay and conditions for postie's or uni staff do they?mumbles87 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:36 am You don't see inflation trying to cut pensions and job terms
Mick lynch explains the situation well on the news
Over the weekend just gone network rail contacted him and said 2pm Tuesday (think was Tuesday) meet in my office for x deal to be presented
1pm Tuesday he called lynch again to say I can't offer you that deal it's been blocked
The only people that can block it are the government
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The gov dont pay my wages but still trying to force through pension reform under bail outs caused by their covid policy.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:59 am The govt don't do pay and conditions for postie's or uni staff do they?
Uni staff come under the department of education do they not?
Train companies aren't owned by government yet the gov can pull their pay deals
Royal mail is private however it's down to policy that's caused the issues.
Profits being paid out whilst trying to push through job cuts
Same with the trains, bailed out by gov. Still allowed to pay profit but conditions trying to be erroded
We are closer than ever to a general strike. May not all be caused by gov but it's not be solved by them . It's been made worse.
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Uni staff are paid by unis. Postie's by their private owner.
If the RMT get their deal will they refuse it unless uni staff get theirs?
People are free to strike over things that are important to them. I hope people get what they want from this but it is having a huge cost on other low paid workers and struggling businesses. That's obviously no reason not to do it but it will impact down the line (pardon the pun). You need customers, making it harder for people to afford trips won't help with that in the years to come.
If the RMT get their deal will they refuse it unless uni staff get theirs?
People are free to strike over things that are important to them. I hope people get what they want from this but it is having a huge cost on other low paid workers and struggling businesses. That's obviously no reason not to do it but it will impact down the line (pardon the pun). You need customers, making it harder for people to afford trips won't help with that in the years to come.
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The strikes have ramped up to double down on the point that the gov is taking to Mick and to agree a deal.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:14 am Uni staff are paid by unis. Postie's by their private owner.
If the RMT get their deal will they refuse it unless uni staff get theirs?
People are free to strike over things that are important to them. I hope people get what they want from this but it is having a huge cost on other low paid workers and struggling businesses. That's obviously no reason not to do it but it will impact down the line (pardon the pun). You need customers, making it harder for people to afford trips won't help with that in the years to come.
There is enough profit in the railways to pay the deal out, I mean they can still pay profits out to shareholders to the millions .. taking money out of the country it's why other counties railways can be so cheap . We fund them.
Rmt may stand in solidarity with the nurses and uni staff but end of day a union only works for its members . Rmt are a strong union. Have overplayed their hand in the past but they are spot on here
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We know what the offer from Network Rail to the unions is, do we know what offer the unions have made to help pay for it?
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As stated it doesn't need help paying for.Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:03 am We know what the offer from Network Rail to the unions is, do we know what offer the unions have made to help pay for it?
Have you seen the level of profits taken out of the railways to shareholders ?
During covid they were bailed out yet still allowed to pay out shareholders
The contracts on network rail are mad
The gov pay them a set fee to run the railways
Here is your running costs .. and regardless you get 2 million for example
Any profit you keep aswell even if you make a loss you get your 2 million
Old but still spot on
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I see the UK press are all dutifully labelling Mich Lynch as the grinch.
Never let there be any doubt whose side they are all on.
Never let there be any doubt whose side they are all on.
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If our politicians had the same energy and desire to represent their constituents as Lynch does for his members, this country would be a better place for everyone.