The Strikes Thread

[bubbles1966]

Shes put bake off on! ...

Start drinking !

[mumbles87]

Interesting move

Can't see it going down well with many

For one against the human rights act

Nevermind

[Cornelius Beal]

[Clacton-ammer]

Could have picked a better picture of Mick L, looks like the face his missus would see just after sexy time.

[bonzosbeard]

I have brother in law who works in a private industry. Well paid but have unions. He not in union but gets the collective benefits.

He thinks it's great this news and would love to see union's banned.

He doesn't get the changes union's ha e made to workers rights and safety over the years.

I love debating here because usually I receive well structured argument against my opinions but some are just not worth arguing with.
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[sendô]

Long term govt strategy on this?

> Ban striking, forcing public sector employees to work.
> No barganin power so no pay rises/below inflation.
> Public sector pay falls behind private sector. Noone wants those jobs
> Run private sector firms in tandem, cough *NHS* cough
> People start ****ing to private firms, Tories point to public sector not working as a principle.
> Tory donor chums make out like bandits

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

^^^^ I'm intrigued by #5 " People start ****ing to private firms"...

[sendô]

You can get those services already in the back of certain mags.

[sendô]

Anyway, on a purely selfish level the strikes this week have been a result for me. I've had a lay in every day, been home earlier than expected, and by tomorrow I'll have racked up a whole week of delay repay to claim back.

Yet all I read in the media is "misery" for passengers. Although to be fair I did have to actually sit next to another passenger this morning. *shudder*.

[mumbles87]

The Tory response to strong strikes is to try and make them illegal

We get closer by the day to a fascist regime.

An unelected leader that we can do nothing about to get out trying to force members of the public to work

Its against human rights ..

But hey there will be defenders of their actions

Rather than deal with the issue they deal with the symptom

This will cause no end of issues ..

General strike draws closer

Be interesting how they think it will work

How will people who vote to strike be forced in? Who will be chosen?

[ironsonthebrain]

The unions , I gather, are going to take this through the courts if the government get this bill through parliament.

Good. Tie them up in legal arguments, appeals, take it to every legal level possible- and by the time you’ve done that hopefully the Tories will have been voted out at the next election!

[ironsonthebrain]

The Tory response to strong strikes is to try and make them illegal

We get closer by the day to a fascist regime.

An unelected leader that we can do nothing about to get out trying to force members of the public to work

Its against human rights ..

But hey there will be defenders of their actions

Rather than deal with the issue they deal with the symptom

This will cause no end of issues ..

General strike draws closer

Be interesting how they think it will work

How will people who vote to strike be forced in? Who will be chosen?

Interestingly enough there are parallels with the 1920s and 30s.
Coming out of a global pandemic
Recession and stock market crash
Rise of fascism

There are enough people in the Tory cabinet who, had they been alive 100 years ago would surely have been followers of Oswald Moseley, or at very least had fascist sympathies.

Their approach to strikers could only be worse if they went down the Ford route

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Hunger_March

[hammers92]

It’s a non starter imo. Unless Labour commit active self harm between now and the next election, this won’t see the light of the day through legislation.

It’s a throwaway idea by the Government, they’ll be more pressing issues coming up between now and 2024 and it’ll be old news next week. It would’ve been in Rishi’s speech if he was really serious.

[mumbles87]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other



Well Rodney's nightmare isn't far off 2026? If their still here then maybe this could be true ..

Yes the police were shooting them as I left

[mumbles87]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64191654

Don't get this? 4% and 4%... This is the same offer the rmt turned down last month ..nothing new

One of the conditions the RDG has outlined is employers taking control of things like staff, work and training schedules, meaning bosses would not need to agree rotas or train routes with unions.

Other proposed changes include:

A new protocol which would mean drivers who are rostered to work a Sunday shift are committed to doing that unless they can get cover
Reducing time it takes to train drivers through "better use of technology", such as using simulators
Managers deemed as "competent" being allowed to drive trains during disruption on the network
Introducing part-time and flexible working

Company should have to discuss rotas

This Sunday situation. Not a chance, 4% rise then forced to work it? Why not stay as is and be paid to work it?

Use reduce training time agree
Yes managers drive trains in incidents
Part time maybe but only if it's not zero hour BS

[hammers92]

Very different tone from Sunak this morning, sounds conciliatory rather than inflammatory.

[mumbles87]

Very different tone from Sunak this morning, sounds conciliatory rather than inflammatory.

Maybe his legal team have had a word to the wise that whilst the ideas are there legally they won't stand

[Cornelius Beal]

If in doubt why postal workers dont trust their CEO, watch this exposure of the truth dodger.

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[mumbles87]

As pointed out.. in the other countries with the minimum service there is no risk of the sack. Why is it here?

[Greatest Cockney Rip Off]

As pointed out.. in the other countries with the minimum service there is no risk of the sack. Why is it here?

Oh that's a simple one. The Conservatives are a party of absolute ****ing shithouses.