The Strikes Thread

[mumbles87]

Staff at Shelter have also gone on strike today.

And I’m glad the RMT rejected that offer, everyone is focusing on the 8% which is irrelevant anyway if people are having to take a pay cut to then lose their jobs in 2024 but driver only operated trains are dangerous for a host of reasons.

Also not 8%

4% this year 4% next when inflation is double digits

[sendô]

A 4 % pay rise when inflation is over 10% is an insult.

It makes me laugh seeing all the talking heads say that pay rises that match inflation are “unaffordable”. Absolute tosh. :lol:

[mumbles87]

A 4 % pay rise when inflation is over 10% is an insult.

It makes me laugh seeing all the talking heads say that pay rises that match inflation are “unaffordable”. Absolute tosh. :lol:

I want to see a public sector pay policy brought in

All public sector workers to get CPI based pay rises for life

Would end a lot of union strikes and cpi is fair and measured

Target is 2 % every year so a 2% rise on normal years and every now and again this happens

I include Mps in this

Remember fares go up by RPI so more money comes into the system it can be afforded

Good enough for pensioners

[delbert]

For those that love a graph:

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2647 ... ion-in-uk/

The public sector (of which I am one) did have pay rise caps and freezes during the years of austerity, but then both interest rates and inflation was also generally low, I don't personally feel as though my pay has fallen in real terms as much as what's being banded about......

[SammyLeeWasOffside]

I want to see a public sector pay policy brought in

All public sector workers to get CPI based pay rises for life

Would this include any built in progression rises?

The problem with pay freezes is attracting new starters.

[mumbles87]

Would this include any built in progression rises?

The problem with pay freezes is attracting new starters.

Progression rises could stay, to encourage people to stay but CPi linked pay rises to ensure the base rate keeps up with cost of living rather than being a pay cut would be fair

[bubbles1966]

And if we have negative inflation, does a pay cut apply?

[mumbles87]

And if we have negative inflation, does a pay cut apply?

No. That would be just a pay freeze. So a tiny real term pay rise

[westhamgardner]

https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/05/more-chr ... 83043/amp/

Losing a lot of good will very very quickly.

[mumbles87]

https://metro.co.uk/2022/12/05/more-chr ... 83043/amp/

Losing a lot of good will very very quickly.

With the greatest respect the gov could end this strike tomorrow

Offer a proper pay deal
Don't go for job cuts as part of the pay deal

And stop offering insulting deals and canceling talks

It's like putting your house on the market for 500k and someone offering a cheeky 100k

[westhamgardner]

With the greatest respect the gov could end this strike tomorrow

Offer a proper pay deal
Don't go for job cuts as part of the pay deal

And stop offering insulting deals and canceling talks

It's like putting your house on the market for 500k and someone offering a cheeky 100k

Not going to get into a row about this as you clearly have skin in the game so understanbly have strong feeling on the pay deals etc.

With the greatest respect don't be surprised when more and more of the public grow tired and frustrated with Lynch and the RMT. For a lot of people this was to be the first normal Christmas in three years and no transport is going to ruin it.

[mumbles87]

Not going to get into a row about this as you clearly have skin in the game so understanbly have strong feeling on the pay deals etc.

With the greatest respect don't be surprised when more and more of the public grow tired and frustrated with Lynch and the RMT. For a lot of people this was to be the first normal Christmas in three years and no transport is going to ruin it.

That's the thing, lynch and the rmt care not for public support

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

What percentage of journeys involve a paper ticket purchased from a manned ticket office?

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

Not going to get into a row about this as you clearly have skin in the game so understanbly have strong feeling on the pay deals etc.

With the greatest respect don't be surprised when more and more of the public grow tired and frustrated with Lynch and the RMT. For a lot of people this was to be the first normal Christmas in three years and no transport is going to ruin it.

Multiple governments, Prime Ministers and transport secs have had months to fix this. The anger should be with them, not a bunch of men and women fighting to be treated fairly.

[Denbighammer]

With the greatest respect don't be surprised when more and more of the public grow tired and frustrated with Lynch and the RMT. For a lot of people this was to be the first normal Christmas in three years and no transport is going to ruin it.

And the presents they have ordered not being delivered won't go down well either.

[bubbles1966]

Multiple governments, Prime Ministers and transport secs have had months to fix this. The anger should be with them, not a bunch of men and women fighting to be treated fairly.

The taxpayer has bailed them all out, just like the bankers.

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

The taxpayer has bailed them all out, just like the bankers.

We've all bailed ourselves out. The vital difference here is the banking industry caused that situation themselves.

[westhamgardner]

And the presents they have ordered not being delivered won't go down well either.

This strike only affects the average person. The government have shown they don’t care. But no you’re right lets just be happy about the RMT are using one of the few times a year that the general public have a significant national holiday to make a point

[bubbles1966]

We've all bailed ourselves out. The vital difference here is the banking industry caused that situation themselves.

I look forward to getting my bail out - I suppose Royal Mail have the cheque because it ain't turned up yet.

These rail/tube services and the jobs would all be kaput already if it wasn't for the taxpayer.

[hammers92]

This strike only affects the average person. The government have shown they don’t care. But no you’re right lets just be happy about the RMT are using one of the few times a year that the general public have a significant national holiday to make a point

Lynch and the RMT represents its members. They don’t work for you, me or anyone else who isn’t a member.