The Monarchy

[Shy Ted]

Because the monarchy offer nothing, provide nothing. They are the richest family in the UK with huge assets which they have stolen from the country. They take and they don't give. But the media (particularly The BBC) are a rolling PR team for them and convince people that somehow they are good.

Their existence is morally wrong. That should be enough, unless you prefer to live as a subject funding an unelected, unaccountable institution.

And when you ask people why they support the monarchy, you get some guff about tourism and tradition.

It's actually quite laughable.

Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By exploitin' the workers -- by 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress--

Quieten down Dennis.

[delbert]

And when you ask people why they support the monarchy, you get some guff about tourism and tradition.

I support them because their continued existence upsets people like you........

[prophet:marginal]

If you disagree with what I said and think it's wrong, then show me I'm wrong, it's not down to me to prove I'm right to someone on a football forum that doubts what I've posted when I'm about to try and work through hundreds of photos for a client.

It shouldn't be difficult - you called me out on it, nobody else, so the ball is in your court, Proph.

EDIT: **** it, there you go.

I asked for the link to the information. Nothing more than that.

[StevePottsGoalsReel]

Quieten done Dennis.

Read this as Quinton don Dennis and thought I was back in the transfer thread discussing the best prospects from Ligue 1/Watford.

[old fart]

I'm disappointed you can't pay an extra tenner and do speedy mourning

[ageing hammer]

I'm disappointed you can't pay an extra tenner and do speedy mourning

Stay in the living room and just walk past the live TV stream

[Up the Junction]

Latest queue status... is there anyone here going to be joining it?

[Shy Ted]

I'm disappointed you can't pay an extra tenner and do speedy mourning

Stay in the living room and just walk past the live TV stream

I done that this morning, and only queued for three hours.

[Coops]

I find myself getting drawn in, then I see the sweaty nonce and I remember.

[OFT]

Is it perfect? No
Does it seem to work reasonably well for the nation?.. Yes
Would change be for better or worse? Dunno.

We're talking The Monarchy here not membership of The EU aren't we?

[Tenbury]

Social cohesion

It's rather important, even if it's value is difficult to monetise

While I don't like the tone Mr BckCrknSk adopts, it seems fair to point out that if the role of The Monarchy is to engender 'social cohesion', they're not making a great fist of it.

[Hummer_I_mean_Hammer]

I done that this morning, and only queued for three hours.

Same here.

Problem I had was my daughter is off sick so by the time I got to the front she changed channels..

[Turns to Stone]

I think the Queen was a pretty good representation of what I would like the UK to be seen as. I think Charles will probably be the same, if not a slightly more modern version - and I would guess that Wills will actually be one that goes onto rival Elizabeth herself in terms of popularity.

It's a decent institution and I think in the World that we live in, they offer something intangible that I can't describe, but that I appreciate. They are a part of us, and we of them. Good and bad.

Having said all that, I can't see why anyone would want to queue to see her right now.

[delbert]

Latest queue status... is there anyone here going to be joining it?

That's not far off of the route taken for one of our less successful pub crawls.........

[bonzosbeard]

I don't want to sound too disrespectful by joking while we are in mourning but King Charles isn't going to struggle to get a cup final ticket.

[szola]

it seems fair to point out that if the role of The Monarchy is to engender 'social cohesion', they're not making a great fist of it.

The British monarchy is by far the one that is most removed from their society at large, compared to any of the European constitutional monarchies. That might have to do with the British Monarchy's history and size.

The Scandinavian monarchies are rather small, same with the Benelux ones as well.

[szola]

Having said all that, I can't see why anyone would want to queue to see her right now.

Last chance?

[dasnutnock3]

I don't want to sound too disrespectful by joking while we are in mourning but King Charles isn't going to struggle to get a cup final ticket.

Supposedly a Burnley fan, so probably won’t be after one for the foreseeable.

[sendô]

Latest queue status... is there anyone here going to be joining it?

If the weather's nice that could be a decent pub crawl.

[DaveWHU1964]

If the weather's nice that could be a decent pub crawl.

Absolutely - that's a fantastic pub crawl. Delbs - what went wrong?

Anyway, I've been looking at this thread but keeping out of it. Comments like Richie's now deleted, ridiculously over-the-top one from the other day mean I've felt best to swerve it for now.

I count myself as a Republican but had massive respect for the Queen but not much time for most the rest of them. Give loyalty to a king who showed no loyalty from the outset to his wife? He can't truly expect that from al of us can he. Admire someone who wanted to come back as Camilla's tampon? Sorry, but I can't.

But this is all getting ridiculous now. Witness the Center Parcs fiasco ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-n ... e-62906112

Still I wouldn''t have bothered to have posted on here but I've just encountered my own example of ridiculousness.

Just went to Waitrose* - Fish Friday - 20% off. Some breaded haddock (we know how to live ) was already 20% off so I thought I'd have some of that.

Get to check-out and what was marked up as £9 should have come down to £7.20. It didn't. I asked why. The lady on check-out asked the manager. She said it's out of respect to the queen. Me: What? Her: We're not doing any promotions this week as a mark of respect. Me: How is that respectful to the Queen? Her: We're not doing any promotions this week. And that was that - no explanation of how that constituted respect, and how could there be? Just ridiculous.

So Waitrose are making another couple of quid profit at my expense out of somer indefinable, impossible-to-explai-or-justify mark of 'respect' to the queen. I'm sure she'd be delighted.

* Before anyone goes down the 'ooh-look-Dave-the socialist-goes-to-Waitrose' route - yes, I do for meat and fish and because I only get it when it's reduced (see above) it's more often than not less expensive as well as better quality than other places).