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Sead Hakšabanović wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:19 am

And please don't start with the tourism argument. That's bs and we all know it.
How. Did you ask all the tourists?
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Sead Hakšabanović wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:19 am We don't have to copy another country. Are you aware of self-determination?

We'd be a better, fairer, more progressive country without these corrupt parasites.


Abolish the monarchy, reform the HoL, and that's a huge step. We don't need a President. A Prime Minister is sufficient.

And please don't start with the tourism argument. That's bs and we all know it.
And you know that how?
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Because the monarchy offer nothing, provide nothing. They are the richest family in the UK with huge assets which they have stolen from the country. They take and they don't give. But the media (particularly The BBC) are a rolling PR team for them and convince people that somehow they are good.

Their existence is morally wrong. That should be enough, unless you prefer to live as a subject funding an unelected, unaccountable institution.

And when you ask people why they support the monarchy, you get some guff about tourism and tradition.

It's actually quite laughable.
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Sead Hakšabanović wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:29 am It's actually quite laughable.
Oh, the irony.
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According to Forbes, the gross cost to each individual taxpayer is a little over a penny a day, whilst their economic uplift is £2.5 billion a year.

Yep, they cost the country a fortune.

I'm not a monarchist, but I have no objection to it remaining.
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Hummer_I_mean_Hammer wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:59 am Why? I must have missed the posts you're talking about
Glad you found them in the end. :newthumb:
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-DL- wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:42 am According to Forbes, the gross cost to each individual taxpayer is a little over a penny a day, whilst their economic uplift is £2.5 billion a year.

Yep, they cost the country a fortune.

I'm not a monarchist, but I have no objection to it remaining.
Can you post a link to that please
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-DL- wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:42 am According to Forbes, the gross cost to each individual taxpayer is a little over a penny a day, whilst their economic uplift is £2.5 billion a year.

Yep, they cost the country a fortune.

I'm not a monarchist, but I have no objection to it remaining.
When you say billion, do you mean million times a million?

Just wondered as I'm sure that some places (America) do things differently :newthumb:
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^^^^I'm pretty certain that a billion is accepted to be a thousand million everywhere.
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:00 am ^^^^I'm pretty certain that a billion is accepted to be a thousand million everywhere.
:crylol: That's me feeling stupid ...
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Sead Hakšabanović wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:29 amBecause the monarchy offer nothing, provide nothing.
Social cohesion

It's rather important, even if it's value is difficult to monetise
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Quick search on the pedia that is wiki, the UK oficially adopted a billion as a thousand million in 1974, although it was in common use after WW2
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:03 am Quick search on the pedia that is wiki, the UK oficially adopted a billion as a thousand million in 1974, although it was in common use after WW2
No need to rub it in... :crylol:

Edit: so if my (observedly poor) maths is correct, they cost the UK about £24 billion a year?

Or is it £244 billion?

Was drinking last night, so my brain refuses to work for me. :chin:
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prophet:marginal wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:54 am Can you post a link to that please
I'm sure you're able to use Google, as I've logged off of my PC :newthumb:
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Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:00 am ^^^^I'm pretty certain that a billion is accepted to be a thousand million everywhere.
It's an interesting bit of history. The "British Billion" did used to be different to the US billion - but it's been standardised since 1975:

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandque ... 24,00.html

The UK version had 12 zeroes compared to the US 9 zeroes, but the former is now universally recognised as a trillion instead.
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∆∆∆∆ showing my age now. :crylol:
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-DL- wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:05 am I'm sure you're able to use Google, as I've logged off of my PC :newthumb:
Thanks

Were those figures in

1. 3/21 'The growing cost of the royal family to taxpayers', or
2. 7/19 'The Royal Family is getting increasingly expensive'?
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I don't know mate, I Googled it, saw it, copied the numbers and pasted it, and don't particularly take any notice of the article title or anything else that wasn't relevant.

You're capable of searching out yourself and deciphering which one - and I'm also perfectly sure you're more than capable of looking beyond a headline.
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I see thanks
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