The Sunak Government 2022-

[EvilC]

Pathetic. Mountain out of a molehill. She paid the fine, asked if she could have a one to one speeding course, was told no, asked if she could do it online to remain anonymous, was told no so she took the points.

Yeah, massive scandal

You are missing or deliberately glossing over the important points. These are:
1) A speeding ticket is trivial. So why have your aide deny it existed?
2) The issue is, as I understand it, has she attempted to use channels that don't exist to Joe Bloggs to do whatever it was regarding the course - Graunaid:
"Under the proposal, Braverman would not have had to attend an in-person course with other motorists, or an online one where her name and face would be visible on camera to other participants.

Sources claimed that Home Office officials emailed the Cabinet Office’s propriety and ethics team to ask whether they could advise the home secretary. They were immediately told they could not.

When the civil servants refused to help, Braverman is believed to have turned to a political aide who tried to persuade the course provider to agree to the proposal. When they declined, she opted to take the three points on her licence and pay the fine instead."

I don't know whether this is a ministerial code breach, but the last bit in particular doesn't sound above board.

So why not have the investigation, find out what happened, and see if she breached the ministerial code?

It would be delicious to see her undone by the civil service blob.

[Cornelius Beal]

Pathetic. Mountain out of a molehill. She paid the fine, asked if she could have a one to one speeding course, was told no, asked if she could do it online to remain anonymous, was told no so she took the points.

Yeah, massive scandal

They learn nothing. Yes, the initial offence was minor. It's the denials and cover ups that create a storm, once uncovered. Johnson and Chris Pincher, prime example.

[Puff Daddy]

Apart from Brexit, is there anything the Tories have done in the last 13 years ?

[southbrishammer]

Apart from Brexit, is there anything the Tories have done in the last 13 years ?

They've taken away our right to peacefully protest.

[The Old Man of Storr]

Was that the time she was speeding with Sunak in the back not wearing his seat belt hanging on for dear life or was that some other time ?


This breaking of the Ministerial Code doesn't apply to modern Politicians - that only applied to those who took their jobs seriously .


I miss the good old days when Ministers actually resigned when they did wrong , now it's just a free for all .


I blame The Tories .

[westham,eggyandchips]

They'll get her eventually.

[DaveWHU1964]

She’ll get herself

[delbert]

They'll get her eventually.

It's like the Civil Service are some sort of terrorist organisation, " we've only got to get lucky once, Tory ministers have to be lucky all the time"......

[Het-Field]

She’ll get herself

Her rant in the Commons today was rather amusing. The Tories keep managing to set the bar lower and lower when it comes to propriety. This also was a problem in the last days of the 1992-1997 administration. She calls it a 'distraction', but it cant be a distraction. Nobody is particularly (or at all) concerned about the speeding matter.

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

Regardless of what you think of the current administration, is anyone else uneasy about a Civil Service cabal trying to bring it down? Isn't that how dictatorships begin? I always believed that when you signed up to the CS you undertook to do the job regardless of the party in power. Seems not.

[WHU Independent]

She got civil servants to try and "sort out" the speeding problem out for her. Basically she used her staff to try get involved ih wnat is a personal matter for her to deal with.

Imagine being at work and your boss approaches you to sort out his speeding ticket for him/her? - unless you are his/her personal secretary (which this people were not) why the hell should you do it?

She's been shown to be a bully, been made to resign once and she's clearly trying (as per her speech at the Local con gig the other day) to help pull the rug out of Sunak's feet. She's a wrong um but people like her because of stance on immigrants.

[southbrishammer]

Regardless of what you think of the current administration, is anyone else uneasy about a Civil Service cabal trying to bring it down?

Is there any actual evidence that this is happening? I just assumed it was part of the standard Trumpesque approach of blaming everyone else for your own failure to get things done.

Obviously if it is happening, it would be very worrying and contrary to the purpose of the Civil Service and its doctrine of political neutrality.

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

Regardless of what you think of the current administration, is anyone else uneasy about a Civil Service cabal trying to bring it down? Isn't that how dictatorships begin? I always believed that when you signed up to the CS you undertook to do the job regardless of the party in power. Seems not.

Probably stop doing things that are against the rules?

The CS should rat on politicians of every party as soon as they break the rules. You want the power and responsibility (and your nose in the trough)? Play it straight.

[westham,eggyandchips]

Probably stop doing things that are against the rules?

The CS should rat on politicians of every party as soon as they break the rules. You want the power and responsibility (and your nose in the trough)? Play it straight.

What rules?

[Cornelius Beal]

Raab to step down before he loses his seat.

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

What rules?

In Braverman's case? The suggestion is she's broken the ministerial code.

Sunak and Johnson broke covid regulations.


Raab standing down? Coward.

[last.caress]

[delbert]

Is there any actual evidence that this is happening? I just assumed it was part of the standard Trumpesque approach of blaming everyone else for your own failure to get things done.

Obviously if it is happening, it would be very worrying and contrary to the purpose of the Civil Service and its doctrine of political neutrality.

There's enough suspicion to prompt an inquiry:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/do ... 4019&ei=62

[Kludgehammer]

Regardless of what you think of the current administration, is anyone else uneasy about a Civil Service cabal trying to bring it down?

"cabal trying to bring it down" -> "staff actually following the rule book and the law"

[Danny's Dyer Acting]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 43646.html

Suella Braverman is facing fresh allegations of ministerial code breaches over her failure to formally disclose years of previous work with the Rwandan government.

The home secretary co-founded a charity called the Africa Justice Foundation with Cherie Blair, which trained Rwandan government lawyers between 2010 and 2015.

Several people the charity worked with are now key members of President Paul Kagame’s government and are involved in the UK’s £140m deal to send asylum seekers to Rwanda.

Ms Braverman did not officially disclose her previous links to the country when appointed home secretary in 2022, despite the deal being a lynchpin of the government’s migration policy and ongoing legal challenges alleging politically-driven human rights violations including torture, murder and kidnappings.

This is looking like more than just some disgruntled wokerati in the CS holding a grudge. Someone is pulling up all of her skeletons and wants her out.