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For that last French try, who was that shagged out, knackered bloke over there who scarcely made an attempt to stop him?
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^^^^Alex Dombrandt the number eight.
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Puff Daddy wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:07 pm For that last French try, who was that shagged out, knackered bloke over there who scarcely made an attempt to stop him?
Dombrandt…and tbf today showed why Jones never picked him…just not enough power at international level (not referring to that specific incident)

Hopefully this is a bit of a watershed in some way…if it’s not, then we are screwed for a very long time
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That was embarrassing. As good as France were we were equally crap all round.
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... and as for that Smith. Surely he's too small to play rugby?...not enough meat on his bones
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On that note I really hope Smith doesn’t get binned offf. He was a million miles away from being the problem
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Puff Daddy wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:37 pm ... and as for that Smith. Surely he's too small to play rugby?...not enough meat on his bones
I guess you've never heard of Shane Williams, Wales's highest scoring winger ?


Size is irrelevant at fly half, it's about skill, movement and game management.
Smith has the first two, not sure about the 3rd at international level.
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Eggchaser wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:47 pm I guess you've never heard of Shane Williams, Wales's highest scoring winger ?


Size is irrelevant at fly half, it's about skill, movement and game management.
Smith has the first two, not sure about the 3rd at international level.
Oh fair enough. Guess that must be why it is called fly half. But I didn't see a small player in the French team, but they dont stand a chance against a guy, three times his size
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Ntamack probably same size as Smith…as is Finn Russell elsewhere
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How many years has Borthwick got left?
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alf git wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:26 pm How many years has Borthwick got left?
The way we’re playing there’s no guarantee we’ll get out of our pool past Argentina and Japan, so he might not see out the year.
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Eggs'n'nuts wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:46 pm They are very, very good.

They have handed England their a**eholes on a plate tonight. As it stands France are my bet for The World Cup.
been saying this for 2 years. France are ridiculously good on a good day. On a bad day, they are just good.
Forget about england. We have wasted this very special generation of talent. maybe in 4 years......
Ireland are in with a shout too. Northern hemisphere to win.......
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BTW, I've had a thoroughly **** day.
Even for a West Ham supporter after Astra Googoo in successive seasons, this stings....
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Who was the guy at the end who, despite England being absolutely humbled and embarrassed, was still trying to perfect his ****ing goose step to get past the French? Looked a right donut!
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Toulouse_Iron wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:22 am been saying this for 2 years. France are ridiculously good on a good day. On a bad day, they are just good.
Forget about england. We have wasted this very special generation of talent. maybe in 4 years......
Ireland are in with a shout too. Northern hemisphere to win.......
France definitely clicked yesterday after a slightly ropey few games. But we were really really poor...timid and what appeared to be a lack of leadership. As critical as I've been of Farrell recently, his leadership was sorely missed. Do we go back to him or push on and almost force the situation where others step up?
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Somewhat glad that I didn’t take up the offer of tickets for the England game and couldn’t even watch the match.

Thankfully there has been some good rugby in this tournament - the Scots have been far more watchable than previously, and their game against the Irish was good. Ireland and France have been playing well and even the Italians have in parts … all of which is a minor consolation to England’s performances.
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Shame you didn't watch it as you missed one of the best performances in the history of the 5/6 Nations tournament. Defensively, France were near-perfect. Seldom penalised, almost never a backwards step. Their attacking play was breathtaking, clinical, merciless and relentless.

We are lucky in Toulouse to be able to go and watch Dupont, Ntamack, Ramos, Baille, Flament,etc. every week.
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Loftyhammer wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:04 pm Ntamack probably same size as Smith…as is Finn Russell elsewhere
Have you seen Capuozzo (also from Toulouse)? One of the stand-out players of the tournament: smaller than Mark Noble at a shade under 5'10 and 12 and a half stone.
Dupont is 5'9 and 13 and a haf stone (I've met him and he isalmost as wide as he is tall): Small and fast but rock-solid.
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Toulouse_Iron wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:03 pm Have you seen Capuozzo (also from Toulouse)? One of the stand-out players of the tournament: smaller than Mark Noble at a shade under 5'10 and 12 and a half stone.
Dupont is 5'9 and 13 and a haf stone (I've met him and he isalmost as wide as he is tall): Small and fast but rock-solid.
Literally bumped into Byron Kelleher in a NZ bar once....thought I'd been hit by a train! Similar build to DuPont....
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Puff Daddy wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:07 pm For that last French try, who was that shagged out, knackered bloke over there who scarcely made an attempt to stop him?
Talking about Dombrandt who tried a tap tackle, a number 8 against a winger. Or Steward the full back who was no where near him.

The fact that Dombrandt got near him was an effort. Agree that at the moment he is not an international 8.
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