⚽ West Ham Utd 1-1 Chelsea (11/2/23)

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Heaven forbid Benrahma plays in the position he has played for his whole career. What is the manager thinking?!?
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would it really have been that impossible for moyes to have kept antonio on the field and also brought ings on and have two strikers?
It's either the case that antonio can no longer manage 90 mins or our manager just refuses to play two strikers.
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kitthehammer wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:29 am would it really have been that impossible for moyes to have kept antonio on the field and also brought ings on and have two strikers?
It's either the case that antonio can no longer manage 90 mins or our manager just refuses to play two strikers.
We did have 2 strikers, he went 352

Mickey cant last 90 mins (imho), and to be fair he put it about a fair bit on Saturday
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sure you did but what about antonio ? :crylol:
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hammerman11 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:34 am sure you did but what about antonio ? :crylol:
Haha…. :crylol:

Now edited, cheers H11
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I still would have preferred downes in the middle with paq and rice even before the injury. we had no possession and couldnt get near them. downes offers energy and bite. he maintains his position well.
antonio and bowen up front . benrahma was poor so we would not have missed him !

we need to get hold of the ball and not let teams have such an easy time in possession.
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Yeah looks like 352 was the way to go, so make you right…

I think the issue for the manager was knowing what side they would put out with all of the new polayers they had in
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Ozza wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:31 am We did have 2 strikers, he went 352

Mickey cant last 90 mins (imho), and to be fair he put it about a fair bit on Saturday
kind of my point, i thought antonio was causing them problems too.
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we really need to improve our clearances out from the back. We are giving possession straight back to the opponents far too much.
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Mullhull wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:00 pm Calling him weird is a bit ironic when all you do is come on this forum to tell everyone how **** it is at West Ham now and that you don't go, like anyone cares.
It's called deflection.

For 20 years Matthew has only ever graced us with his presence when things turn to rat ****. If West Ham is doing well, Matthew disappears, probably to think us some more Jackanory stories about being a Season Ticket holder in the Norf Bank and how moving to the LS was the final nail in the coffin for him.

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kitthehammer wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:47 am we really need to improve our clearances out from the back. We are giving possession straight back to the opponents far too much.
And throw ins 😤
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Diogenes wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:57 am And throw ins 😤
This - we lose possession from almost every throw we have.
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Funny old game, after 20 minutes I thought Moyes/us was going to get our first proper spanking under him, we were just not at the races, lacked energy, some of our players looked like they had never seen a football before, Paq getting injured didn't help, but we were totally lost.

Picked up somewhat from there, then 2nd half I'm just not sure what I witnessed, was, I don't know, just lacked "something".

A point before the game I would have taken, and I am more than happy with a point at the final whistle and today, just felt a really weird game and I am just not sure what is going on.
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This was another game that (for me) was ruined (to an extent) by VAR. If you have to repeatedly watch video footage for marginal offside decisions then you might as well give the attacker the benefit of the doubt and leave such decisions to the lineo - it all evens out in the end. I can see the case for VAR for goal line decisions, but nothing else (in my opinion).
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mike1961 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:54 am This was another game that (for me) was ruined (to an extent) by VAR. If you have to repeatedly watch video footage for marginal offside decisions then you might as well give the attacker the benefit of the doubt and leave such decisions to the lineo - it all evens out in the end. I can see the case for VAR for goal line decisions, but nothing else (in my opinion).
It'll be different if/when this new system comes in. If like the goal-line tech it reduces everything to a graphic image, then it takes the controversy out of it. The image is clear, unbiased and instant.

It may or may not be actually correct, but no-one will really have grounds to argue as the human element is removed.
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Yup the only way to get VAR right is to get rid of the human factor.
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mike1961 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:54 am This was another game that (for me) was ruined (to an extent) by VAR. If you have to repeatedly watch video footage for marginal offside decisions then you might as well give the attacker the benefit of the doubt and leave such decisions to the lineo - it all evens out in the end. I can see the case for VAR for goal line decisions, but nothing else (in my opinion).
I assume you're referencing the Soucek goal here. I really don't understand why it took them so long. It was clearly offside, it wasn't even close! Should have been sorted within 30 seconds. Tbh, the linesman should have probably seen it to begin with!
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mike1961 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:54 am This was another game that (for me) was ruined (to an extent) by VAR. If you have to repeatedly watch video footage for marginal offside decisions then you might as well give the attacker the benefit of the doubt and leave such decisions to the lineo - it all evens out in the end. I can see the case for VAR for goal line decisions, but nothing else (in my opinion).
VAR disallowing Souceks goal was the perfect use of the technology (albeit a bit slow in this case!) - a clear offside that was missed by the assistant referee. It’s a fact the goal should be disallowed.

For things like Souceks handball, I’m not so keen on VAR. The referee on the pitch saw the incident in real time and didn’t think it was handball, yet it gets officiated again in freeze frame slow motion which distorts the reality of what happened - for something that has a degree of opinion anyway. Again in this instance the officials did really well as the VAR ref didn’t feel the need to overrule the on pitch decision, but often it goes the other way.

I see Henry Winter has called the Soucek handball the worst VAR decision of the weekend, laughable when you see what happened with Arsenal and Brighton.
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Paolopaul wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:51 am I see Henry Winter has called the Soucek handball the worst VAR decision of the weekend
There's a reason The Times have rehired Martin Samuel.

Dear old 'enry has lost the plot.
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EastleighHammer16 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:30 am I assume you're referencing the Soucek goal here. I really don't understand why it took them so long. It was clearly offside, it wasn't even close! Should have been sorted within 30 seconds. Tbh, the linesman should have probably seen it to begin with!
I can only assume they were weighing up whether the James push on Rice was enough to cause a problem.

Part of the reason he was offside is because James shoved him there.
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