Oh dear. Hope he comes back stronger.
I don't think ogbonna is a huge downgrade on Zouma anyway so no need to panic.
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Oh dear. Hope he comes back stronger.
Ogbonna ís a huge downgrade imo.Absolutely Hammered! wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:03 am Oh dear. Hope he comes back stronger.
I don't think ogbonna is a huge downgrade on Zouma anyway so no need to panic.
We do constantly defend, it makes sense that it would be us.Patsy Belgium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:06 am Struggling to think of a team that has committed more comical defensive **** ups than us in a season.
Lanzini hurdled a leg breaker and got a yellow card at the time. Compare the two "challenges". Total and utter hypocrisy.
Oggy Coufal and Cresswell are still technically good defenders, but probably leaves us with the slowest back line in PL history, far from ideal against Citeh and their red shirted neighbours. Moyes could revert to a back 3, but then we are back to only having Emerson as a passable wing back. Let’s hope some of the early Zouma reaction turns out to be premature and he’s back in a week or so, but another big quick centre back who doesn’t break down every month is a summer priority.
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If we had played some decent football and lost 4-3 I would agree with you. We were really poor yesterday, I don’t think anyone wanted that.Up the Junction wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:36 am The only time WHU have scored more away from home in the Premier League this season was last week at Bournemouth.
Win 4-0. Lose 4-3. It's the West Ham way you all wanted...
Next week: Manchester beckons. As does a lesson from City before glorious redemption against that other mob.
Yep. Three corners. You could put the whole Stoke City team on steroids and they couldn't guarantee a corner goal every game, let alone three.
Didn’t bring in centre half cover on loan last January, limped over the finishing line and fell short in the Europa League.
Did we really have a passing game under Moyes? I say that was more in focus with Bilic and Pellergrini.Bucksexile wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:51 am What has happened to our passing game?
Just don't seem to be able to complete a pass from midfield. We used to be really good at that. Now, we just give the ball away.
He must consider Kehrer a viable centre back. Anyone fancy chipping in for a humungous amount of cotton wool to wrap Ogbonna in until 11 May?funky chicken wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:48 am Didn’t bring in centre half cover on loan last January, limped over the finishing line and fell short in the Europa League.
It appears Moyes/the recruitment team didn’t learn their lesson from last year and we could suffer the same fate thanks to that.
How can a so-called Premier League club play half a season with just three recognised centre halves!?
For a manager who tells us how badly he wants to win a trophy he’s got a funny way of showing it.
One season is bad enough. Two seasons is unforgivable.
Here’s hoping Zouma’s injury isn’t as bad as first feared, or Oggy and Aguerd can stay injury free for the rest of the season.
There was absolutely no contact yesterday that meant he was actually falling over. It's a dive. I don't know what Sunday league you played in but if that happened when I played, or when my kid plays now, it would be laughed off the pitch or worse. The whole 'entitled to go down' narrative is just hypocrisy, like there's some part of the professional game we all don't understand. It was a blatant dive, that even in the championship would have been yellow carded. Look at his legs, no impact whatsoever and he throws himself to the floor. He was also through on goal, so why no red card for Aguerd then? He's not going for the ball. If that's a foul it's a straight red.... which they can't give because it's not actually a foul.Crouchend_Hammer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:54 am No
They got rid of that retrospective thing for diving ages ago
Also, rightlynor wrongly, if there is contact (no matter how slight) it won't be deemed a dive as no one can know for certain if the attacking player was impeded sufficiently to make them lose their footing
Tbf there is not a player in the professioniknal gane (or amateur game for that matter) that won't go down easily on occasion when there is a penalty to be won.
It has always happened. It happened when I was playing Saturday football twenty y years ago
This is a huge stretch. His foot was trod on. Nothing to do with tiredness.hammerman11 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 am hopefully fine for next sunday and the semi. could have been avoided; tired players get injured !
It's what I like to refer too as Ceefax Football. You're more than happy to walk past a bank of tellys in Rumbelows to glance at the latest scoreline and goal scorers, but you wouldn't want to actually watch that style of football for 90 minutes for real.