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It's grim up Norf
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Re: It's grim up Norf
To bemused faces, tbh, I was once in a Plymouth crowd, at the Den, when the locals were treated to a rendition of 'dirty northern bastards'
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Re: It's grim up Norf
Lol. At a Brighton game a number of years back the fans were chanting "dirty northern bastards" to Charlton.prophet:marginal wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 8:28 pm To bemused faces, tbh, I was once in a Plymouth crowd, at the Den, when the locals were treated to a rendition of 'dirty northern bastards'
Factually correct as everything is north of Brighton, but as someone who grew up in UP chanting that at Leeds and Man U it did tickle me
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Re: It's grim up Norf
When i go to watch Plymouth they sing 'dirty Northern bastards' to everyone
EDIT - just seen you post Proph!
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Re: It's grim up Norf
Perhaps pronounciation might help?
If you pronounce them b-ath, cl-ass & laff, you're northern.
If you pronounce them barth, clarss & larf, you're a southerner.
That would be my dividing line.
If you pronounce them b-ath, cl-ass & laff, you're northern.
If you pronounce them barth, clarss & larf, you're a southerner.
That would be my dividing line.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
I'm guessing we're talking about Northern England here as opposed to Cape Wrath , Durness , Anglesey etc ?
The Harrying Of The North by William The Conqueror & Friends may give us an indication where the North actually lies ....
At the time of the Norman Conquest the North consisted of what became Yorkshire. Durham, and Northumberland in the east and Lancashire with the southern parts of Cumberland and Westmorland in the west.
The Harrying Of The North by William The Conqueror & Friends may give us an indication where the North actually lies ....
At the time of the Norman Conquest the North consisted of what became Yorkshire. Durham, and Northumberland in the east and Lancashire with the southern parts of Cumberland and Westmorland in the west.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
North for me is Crewe, Sheffield, the Humber and above S
Northampton and north of that is midlands and that includes Stoke, Mansfield.
Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Cornwall all have "special" status.
I do remember singing "dirty northern bastards" at Arsenal one year.
Northampton and north of that is midlands and that includes Stoke, Mansfield.
Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Cornwall all have "special" status.
I do remember singing "dirty northern bastards" at Arsenal one year.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
In the South West (which by its name should make you a southerner) they pronounce them baath, claass and laaff, so you might need some subcategories.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
But only when you'd consumed a quarter of those funny chewy sweets. You know the ones I mean.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
Regardless of whether it's north or south, I do like strong accents. It gives identity. I'm not keen on those places that have a wishy washy accent that's hard to detect.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
It starts at Northampton. Why do you think they gave the town that name?
Basically, draw a line from the start of the Severn estuary near Gloucester to the Wash near King's Lynn. Milton Keynes and Bedford are the last southern towns as you go up the M1.
Basically, draw a line from the start of the Severn estuary near Gloucester to the Wash near King's Lynn. Milton Keynes and Bedford are the last southern towns as you go up the M1.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
When I was a teenager I went on a scooter rally to the Isle of Wight, where I tried to chat up a girl who was working in a newsagent.
When I told her were I was from (Essex) she said "oh that's up North isn't it", to which I replied, "everywhere is from here".
When I told her were I was from (Essex) she said "oh that's up North isn't it", to which I replied, "everywhere is from here".
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Re: It's grim up Norf
Is it Tea or Dinner you have for your evening meal?
That's the real N/S divide right there, and as for 'Supper'
I identified with Paddy Keilty when he got his first 'Come round for Supper' invite in London, 'What, I come round about 10:30pm and have cornflakes?"
That's the real N/S divide right there, and as for 'Supper'
I identified with Paddy Keilty when he got his first 'Come round for Supper' invite in London, 'What, I come round about 10:30pm and have cornflakes?"
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Re: It's grim up Norf
I used to have supper as a kid... I never hear that word nowadays.Junco Partner wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 9:44 am Is it Tea or Dinner you have for your evening meal?
That's the real N/S divide right there, and as for 'Supper'
I identified with Paddy Keilty when he got his first 'Come round for Supper' invite in London, 'What, I come round about 10:30pm and have cornflakes?"
Not sure about the logic for the north south divide though. We always called the evening meal Tea when I lived in Lancashire. In Nottingham it tends to be Dinner.
I never noticed as a kid but we used to swear all the time with our abbreviated version of 'couldn't'.
If you call a bread roll a bun, barm, cob, or a teacake then you're northern.
Some other northern words I still use...
mardy (sulky, grumpy)
Skrike (shreik, scream)
Sken (to look or peer at something)
Crackin' Flags (really hot - ie 'it's crackin' flags outside')
Spanish (a liquorice string)
Kecks (trousers or underwear)
Ginnel (Alley)
Oin (annoy - as in 'stop oining him')
Taken from: https://theconversation.com/northern-di ... say-102063
When in 1975 John Lennon said “working class”, he pronounced the vowel in “class” as a short “a”, like the vowel that most Britons use in “cat”. As he pointed out, this was looked down upon, because in Received Pronunciation and in the south of England most speakers use a long “ahh” vowel in such “class” words. Interestingly, the southern form is actually strictly deviant. Linguists have traced the origin of this “ahh” pronunciation in words like “class” to 17th-century London, possibly emanating from a lengthened form in Cockney speech. The short “a” pronunciation is the more historical form.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
Anywhere past that ****hole Luton is the north, no ifs or buts. In fact, they can have Luton, the real armpit of the UK.
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Re: It's grim up Norf
My missus - Leeds - says 'skeg' for this.
Her mum will say 'what are we having for us tea?'
It appears that every sibling, even if older than the person speaking is 'our kid'