Edin Terzić leaves Borussia Dortmund [non WHU]

[AG67]

Borussia Dortmund have parted company with manager Edin Terzic after he asked the club "to terminate his contract with immediate effect".

Dortmund reached the Champions League final in 2023-24 under Terzic, 41, but they were beaten by Real Madrid at Wembley.

The German club said they agreed to Terzic's request following "a joint discussion".

"After the game at Wembley, I asked for a meeting with the club’s senior management team, because after nine years at BVB - including six on the coaching staff and two and a half as head coach - I feel that the club’s new era should begin with a new man on the touchline," said Terzic.

"Everyone close to me knows that this has been a very difficult decision for me to take over the last few weeks, but after intensive discussions my fundamental feeling has not changed.

"I wish Borussia Dortmund the very best, thank you and see you soon.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... qq75w4p3xo

[Kermit]

I suspect it won't be long before we see him in the technical area of a PL club.

I have friends in Germany and according to them before we appointed Lopetegui he was being suggested as a strong candidate to be Moyes' replacement.

[Westbourne Bill]

Surprised to understand he was only 32 when he was assistant to Bilic for 2 years

[Jedi Al Khalaas]

Lots of respect for Terzic . Must be aa wrench for him .

Hope he is involved with West Ham again one day

[DusseldorfHammer]

The right move for all parties. Made a lot of mistakes over the last year at Dortmund. Getting into the Championsleague final a bit of a fluke. New regime at Sporting and Technical director level coming in as well and I think they also think, that Terzic has a lot to learn elsewhere before getting in charge again of a Top-team in Germany. His Dortmund side never looked really settled; especially defensively.

[AG67]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rview.html

Hadn’t heard that story before today.

[ToiletDuck]

Has Loppy done a Loppy on us?

[brooking_1980]

Very sad to see that, he done amazing to take them to the Champions League final and with a bit of luck/experience, should have won it.

Hope he goes onto somewhere where he can show his skills again.

[Puff Daddy]

Rather surprised this was by mutual consent

[Kermit]

The right move for all parties. Made a lot of mistakes over the last year at Dortmund. Getting into the Championsleague final a bit of a fluke. New regime at Sporting and Technical director level coming in as well and I think they also think, that Terzic has a lot to learn elsewhere before getting in charge again of a Top-team in Germany. His Dortmund side never looked really settled; especially defensively.

A fluke ? If I was a club owner I'd happily employ a manager who can fluke his way to a Champioins League final and give his club arguably their best 2 years since Jurgen Klopp was at the helm.

[Kermit]

Rather surprised this was by mutual consent

I heard on the radio that his contract was terminated immediately at his request. Does seem somewhat strange although I suppose it could be a case of toys out of the pram if there had been a meeting which didn;t go well.

[DusseldorfHammer]

A fluke ? If I was a club owner I'd happily employ a manager who can fluke his way to a Champioins League final and give his club arguably their best 2 years since Jurgen Klopp was at the helm.

League season was an utter disaster for Dortmund's standards, where Top-3 hast to be the norm. Team hasn't developed under Terzic; not a single player got better this season. (Big negative point the last one; especially for a club, that has to develop players and sell them on for a premium to stay competetive).

On fluke. Yes. 9 out of 10 times they go out of the Semi. PSG hit the woodwork six times in those two matches.

Don't get me wrong. Terzic is a top-bloke and might find his way into top-management. Right now he's two-levels beneath the quality it requires to run a team like Dortmund. And I think it's right for him to go elsewhere, outside of the Dortmund bubble and grow as a manager/head coach and especially leader*.

*A lot of Dortmund's player never took him seriously.

[steps]

Surprised to understand he was only 32 when he was assistant to Bilic for 2 years

Brady asked him to stay on after Bilic got the sack but he turned down her proposal.

I like Terzic, he seems a down to earth guy. Would like him back here and I wouldn’t be against him bringing Donyell Malen.

[AG67]

League season was an utter disaster for Dortmund's standards, where Top-3 hast to be the norm. Team hasn't developed under Terzic; not a single player got better this season. (Big negative point the last one; especially for a club, that has to develop players and sell them on for a premium to stay competetive).

On fluke. Yes. 9 out of 10 times they go out of the Semi. PSG hit the woodwork six times in those two matches.

Don't get me wrong. Terzic is a top-bloke and might find his way into top-management. Right now he's two-levels beneath the quality it requires to run a team like Dortmund. And I think it's right for him to go elsewhere, outside of the Dortmund bubble and grow as a manager/head coach and especially leader*.

*A lot of Dortmund's player never took him seriously.

I posted an article on here earlier about rumoured friction between Terzić and Hummels, maybe it was a bit more widespread among the squad.
Some guys are simply just more suited to being a coach/assistant manager rather than the main man, maybe that’s Terzić.

[DusseldorfHammer]

I posted an article on here earlier about rumoured friction between Terzić and Hummels, maybe it was a bit more widespread among the squad.
Some guys are simply just more suited to being a coach/assistant manager rather than the main man, maybe that’s Terzić.

He clashed with Reus, too.

Plus new people now in charge at Director level. For example Sven Mislintat, former head of recruitement at Arsenal. Know him a little bit and I doubt he rates Terzic highly enough that it would make sense to keep him. I actually think that Terzic is more a Roberto Di Matteo kind of guy. Both were fortunate at some point in their career to be in charge of areally good team. Both might have peaked arly in their career.

[Kermit]

Kermit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:48 pm
A fluke ? If I was a club owner I'd happily employ a manager who can fluke his way to a Champioins League final and give his club arguably their best 2 years since Jurgen Klopp was at the helm.

quote=DusseldorfHammer post_id=6970466 time=1718301519 user_id=58557]
League season was an utter disaster for Dortmund's standards, where Top-3 hast to be the norm. Team hasn't developed under Terzic; not a single player got better this season. (Big negative point the last one; especially for a club, that has to develop players and sell them on for a premium to stay competetive).

On fluke. Yes. 9 out of 10 times they go out of the Semi. PSG hit the woodwork six times in those two matches.

Don't get me wrong. Terzic is a top-bloke and might find his way into top-management. Right now he's two-levels beneath the quality it requires to run a team like Dortmund. And I think it's right for him to go elsewhere, outside of the Dortmund bubble and grow as a manager/head coach and especially leader*.

*A lot of Dortmund's player never took him seriously.
[/quote]

Your knowledge of German football is a lot better than mine. My viewing of it is restricted to the hour long highlights show we get here, although I did watch the final game of the 22/23 season when Dortmund blew their chance of the Meisterschale when they failed to beat Mainz.

I've always seen Dortmund as Germany's "second club" and the most likely to challenge F C Hollywood for the title. I agree their league form was a disaster but their progress to the CL final has, imo, been impressive. Yes, PSG hit the woodwork several times but I also believe Dortmund were denied a clear penalty in the home leg when Fullkrug was pushed in the back. And in most people's opinion they were the better side in the final and on the balance of play probably should have won. But I guess had it not been for their CL run Terzic may well have lost his job earlier because of their poor performance in the league.

I get the point you're making about him gaining experience at a lesser club than BvB, his first job as a head coach did kind of drop into his lap and maybe he wasn't really ready for it. But the record books will show that, overall, his performance was a relative success. And apparently he was very highly regarded by both players and the board, well Karren Brady at least, at West Ham because he was asked to remain after Bilic was sacked.

No doubt he will turn up somewhere soon. I lived and worked in Germany for a while back in the 80s and the team I "adopted" whilst there was the "other" Borussia. I still follow their results from afar and I wouldn't be disappointed to see him rock up there as a replacement for Gerardo Seoane. Getting rid of him didn't do Leverkusen any harm did it ?

[AG67]

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[Swiss Pauli]

Sahin feels like a bit of a vibes appointment, again. Much like Terzic. Perhaps his work as assistant coach impressed enough people at BVB, but looks to me like quite an optimistic hire.

[Kermit]

Sahin feels like a bit of a vibes appointment, again. Much like Terzic. Perhaps his work as assistant coach impressed enough people at BVB, but looks to me like quite an optimistic hire.

Pretrty much the same way Terzic got the job isn't it? Wasn't he initially given the job as "interim" head coach when Marco Rose left.?

[StevePottsGoalsReel]

I actually think that Terzic is more a Roberto Di Matteo kind of guy. Both were fortunate at some point in their career to be in charge of areally good team. Both might have peaked arly in their career.

This is the comparison that came to mind for me too.

Both can be proud of their achievements but assessing a manager based on a single cup run is a recipe for disappointment.